If You Don’t Look Good, We Don’t Look Good
Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 at 1:27 PM by: Katt Linden
Today, we are pleased to announce that a brand new set of ‘default’ avatars are now available.
You’ll find them in two places, as part of the new Resident registration process and inworld, in your avatar’s Library inventory folder.
For some time now, we’ve had a very dated set of avatars available during the registration process, at Secondlife.com, for new Residents to choose from when creating an account. Now, thanks to the work of five top-notch Resident designers, we can offer new Residents a look they can be proud of from the minute they login.
Without further ado, we’d like to acknowledge the tremendous work of:
Adam n’ Eve
Wraith Unsung
Nylon Pinkney
Renegade Clothing
Grendel’s Children
who made this possible. If you have a chance, we highly recommend visiting their in-world locations to check out more of their creations. You can also see an image of the new Default Avatars, as well as information on their creators, in the Second Life Wiki.
Each of these avatars was specially made for this project, and includes the outfit and any gear shown. What you see now is only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. In the coming weeks, we hope to include even more new avatars to be swapped in and out of the avatar selection part of the registration process. Each of the new avatars represents a different style, to appeal to the widest possible number of new users. (A fixed number of avatars are available for selection during the registration process, so we’ll try to keep changing up which are available.) Watch for the new avatars!
And now, if you would like to try out one of the new avatars yourself, we have, hot off the presses, a special Torley video tutorial demonstrating how to swap avatars using your choice of these new avatars inworld! ENJOY!
View or download mp4 version of the tutorial.
Smaller file (lower-quality and fuzzier):
How to Wear one of the new Avatars
Simply login to Second Life, open your inventory, and go to:
Library > Clothing
There, you will see a folder for each of these featured avatars. Simply drag the folder on to your avatar to experience a new look. In each folder, you will also find a notecard from the designer with information about the avatar and a landmark to the designer’s Second Life store. Show them your support!
And, as a special bonus for all Residents, we’ve included 4 extra avatars that are only available inworld, in your avatar’s Library folder.
We feel strongly that by giving new Residents great looking avatars, we can provide a compelling and fun introduction to Second life for all.
June 18th, 2008 at 1:38 PM
better a little late then never hehe, least we got pics now :). Hey Katt the last pic is bleedin int othe SL5B post when its minimized- least for me it is
June 18th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Thank you! I’ve been playing with these for about a week now and have found that many of the included clothes and accessories work well with my existing outfits and even some of the complete outfits are great. I especially love the Boxbot and the dragon from Grendel’s Children.
June 18th, 2008 at 1:45 PM
I like it.
June 18th, 2008 at 1:46 PM
They look great, well done to the contributing designers
June 18th, 2008 at 1:49 PM
May be my new look. Inventory deleting by Linden Labs means no more shopping for me. A very handsome set of noobs.
June 18th, 2008 at 1:54 PM
You can talk the talk
But Lindens…
Seriously…
Have you walked THAT walk??
Oh dear oh dear!!
And hey!
Great noobs!!
June 18th, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I love the box-bot, and have had ‘em in my inventory for some time. Glad to see others will get to see some of these great designers right in the8ir inventory and stuff. Viva Grendel’s!
June 18th, 2008 at 2:00 PM
It’s “ado”, not “adieu”!!! The latter is French for goodbye, which would make no sense.
June 18th, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Ruth needs a big statue or something permanent somewhere in the world for everyone to remember her by and so the new people know what we had to deal with back in the old days!
June 18th, 2008 at 2:10 PM
An great idea to stop newbies being put off the game because they can’t make their avatars look good. These are excellent characters and give new users a much better idea of how good one can look for free!
June 18th, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Did you put the avatars back the way the designers intended them to be or did you leave the altered shapes and mixed up outfits in place?
June 18th, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Yes, Azzura, I agree. I’m going to kind of miss Ruth. Especially when big guys showed up as her.
June 18th, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Thanks for showing us the pics LL. Now we can study them and learn how to detect them so we can avoid them.
June 18th, 2008 at 2:23 PM
What fun! I hope the newborns still do the duck-walk, though, just to make it easy to identify the people that one may need to be a little extra-tolerant of.
June 18th, 2008 at 2:26 PM
[...] want a quick-change into a fresh look. And not too bad of one at that. For the details, check out Katt’s posting on the official Second Life blog: “And, as a special bonus for all Residents, we’ve included 4 extra avatars that are only [...]
June 18th, 2008 at 2:28 PM
At least Grendels Blue and cute Dragon Avatar has an AO ..
and the Dragan itself it is well done btw..
Now how does Phil look ?
June 18th, 2008 at 2:38 PM
@1 indeed
Better late than never.
Yesterday LL really desapointed me by deleting contents in-world and from inventory. And I have to deal with this or die (leave).
The worst customer support service I have seen did not move a finger when dozenS of LL-Bots (robots) invaded my club.
But today I want to cnngratulate LL for this release (skins could be better, lol.) So, CONGRATULATIONS to this equipe and all designers.
We will be more gratefull if you could provide us better and more realistc DEFAULT ANIMATIONS as the next step for this project.
Thank you.
btw. new lindens plants are up to be released too?
June 18th, 2008 at 2:42 PM
@7,
Marianne, I love the new box-bot avatar too, isn’t it cute?
@8
Tho, thank you, I corrected that!
@9
Yes, Azzura, we agree, we are not about to forget the Ruth who connects us all
@11
Ann, yes.
For any of you who have been checking out these new avatars before today, you should go back to the folder in the Library and wear those you like, to copy them into your own inventory folder — the avatars changed in small ways in the very latest release, to fix a few problems that we found with the previous test release. So, the ones in the Library Inventory folder now are the up-to-date avatars.
June 18th, 2008 at 3:02 PM
SL is full of free avatars clothes hair and all the rest.
This is just one more Thing SL doesnt need.
Like the “nice sky”
Like the Voice
Like the blue gui
and so on
Lindens concentrate on the asset server. You must take the load down from the asset server or we soon cannot move any more.
June 18th, 2008 at 3:07 PM
These noob av’s look great! Definitely don’t look so noobish. And hopefully we can stop seeing those awful flip-flop sandals that have been around for years. Yes, years…I remember them when is started in ‘05.
June 18th, 2008 at 3:07 PM
wow! all the males have great big booties! like IMMENSE! is this standard for new residents now? buns of steel? where’s R. Crumb when you need him?
Funny avs. I like them. but still - does baby need so much back?
June 18th, 2008 at 3:16 PM
anylyn people work in different departments
thats like telling a secretary to program some software, not everyone in lindens deal with the asset server, use some common sense please
its nice to have some defaults, so people who are new and dont know anyone or places can look fairly decent right from the beginning
June 18th, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I still wonder why??? a new personalised shape/skin is always the must for anyone after week 1 unless you are a …robot…and at least now its recognised with a bot av….
Please say the robot wont become the new ruthie default??
June 18th, 2008 at 3:38 PM
We are the Box bots, you will be assimilated, loging out is futile…
June 18th, 2008 at 3:42 PM
one thing i did note when i did the survey a few weeks ago was that there was no new furry avs, has this been fixed? i did notice the quad which was good, but i am talking about the “walk on 2 paws” kinda furry
June 18th, 2008 at 3:54 PM
ohh and i forget to add @25… great job on the new avs
it was not ment to sound like a neg post, just my observations while completing the survey.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Hey nice move Lab
Although i agree with the comments about Ruth - she really should be honoured. I will miss her
June 18th, 2008 at 4:03 PM
kool =)
and I will say a prayer for Ruth also.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:07 PM
VERY VERY NICE!!! Way to go guys/ Hahaha I seen one of the box avies at my place today i thought he was cute lol This very cool now to see this because the old avies are just too bland and ugly lol this is awesome thanks you all!
I Still think the Ruth Waddle Walk is cool ……..
June 18th, 2008 at 4:20 PM
They look great! Sometimes little touches like these can make a big difference.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:22 PM
PLEASE, folks, right-click and select “replace outfit” or “add to outfit”. It’s too easy to drag things onto an invisible prim between your camera and your avatar if you use the old fashioned “drag” scheme. This is particularly problematic when the invisible prim is (say) the unfurled version of someone’s angel wings, because then insteda of changing your outfit you’re giving them a copy of the folder.
This can lead to unintended product releases (someone else gets a free full-perm copy of your new bling hair), scary messages (what do you mean I’m going to lose my no-copy skirt?), and embarassment (you didn’t REALLY mean them to get the sex animations in your HUD).
June 18th, 2008 at 4:36 PM
As I’ve said in the past, when LL messes up, I bop ‘em on the head. When they do good, I pat ‘em on the back.
Adding new, viable content for newbs is a good move. Gives people something decent to start with, a better selection, and took minimal amount of LL staff since all the items were volunteered by the wonderful folks listed in the post. The merchants rock. I see no harm and lotsa good in this LL decision. Maximum good, minimal effort, the newbies are happy and the merchants get a nice kudo. Good all the way around.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:46 PM
No question it’s an improvement, BUT please tell me it ain’t so; Ruth gone?
I proposed to that babe dozens of times and still live in hope she’ll say yes. Some of us are not shallow, callow cads and love an avatar for who they are not what they look like.
Although as I look at the pictures, that Cardboard Bot is looking pretty hot.
Looking forward to the new plants.
Cheers LL
June 18th, 2008 at 4:54 PM
You don’t look very good at all Katt.
FULL STOP.
Maybe you should wear the cardboard box.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Do the male avatars come with Xcite! equipment built in?
(Or should I say “tacked on?”)
LOL
June 18th, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Hey I got a few of these at someplace a while back, I can’t remember where. Thanks for considering user submitted content though.
To, Jazzman, the new Ruth is the Ruth-Cloud. It’s (Ruth) still there in spirit, cause technically and if you see someone in a state of permanent mist, it means they are still going to need to go into and out of appearance to fix it. I am glad to see it though, since the cloud hides you from being naked should your clothes get lost in Teleport. Ruth is still the mother of us all
I guess someone at Linden is a fan of Final Fantasy with all the “Cloud” folks I see all over the place. (I know it’s a terrible groaner of a joke, but I never watched the Final Fantasy series either 
June 18th, 2008 at 4:56 PM
@34: Aw, Jayden, don’t be so indelicate. Katt’s avi is the yummiest I’ve seen since my SL wife. I’m still dreaming of proposing to her.
Am I saying too much here?
June 18th, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Congrats on a much-needed upgrade to aid in retention of new residents and bravo to all the designers that helped it happen. The number-one complaint I hear from new friends is how to make their avatar look less noobish. Now if we can just talk about upgrading the actual mesh so our feet don’t behave like hunks of raw meat and our rear ends don’t look like Antarctica in a skirt…
June 18th, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Those are indeed nice additions to the choices that newcomers have. I applaud LL for adding them as choices, and I cheer the creators who made them, and then made them available to LL.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:28 PM
wow, sweet stuff here! good work to the designers and kudos to the staff.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I wish there was a way to “tweek” the details on our avi to make it less symetrical? To add more “character” to the face, it would be nice to be able to edit each eye & each eye brow individually. Elvis had an asymetrical smile, and it was SO sexy!
June 18th, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Argent Stonecutter at least if Linden labs deletes our MLP beds we have a back up copy for free.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Great to see some thought put into avatar selection. And I’ve posted about this but I really think you’d pick up a lot more sign-ups if you went even further. Look at what Spore is doing….avatar creation and customization should be a mini app with training embedded, and should allow widgets and content for Facebook, mySpace and youTube.
Having said that, nice work - and some of them even have pretty good hair, which is the number one newbie retention issue if you ask me.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:42 PM
This is very cool for new folks. Hell I might even gank the pinkney boots because they’re cute.
Now about those asset issues and those Saturdays of sporadic downtime for group-channels, teleporting & search…
June 18th, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Now I have a new Tiny-Bot to go with my… Tiny Mind!
TM
June 18th, 2008 at 5:46 PM
@ 41 I wish there was a way to “tweek” the details on our avi to make it less symetrical?
you can adjust some features like eyes and nose and mouth to be less symmetrical. the Nylon Pinkney ones look really neat and quirky that way.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:48 PM
@31 Argent:
Right clicking wont’ work with folders in the Library (menu shows nothing). In fact you can’t even drag them into your inventory, but you can drag them onto yourself.
And the mouse cursor is almost the same when dragging onto yourself and dragging to others. That reminds me of a Korean MMORPG I played where different actions will have different text labels on the cursor, and Windows Vista, where instead of on the cursor the action will be displayed in a tooltip-like box. Makes me want to fill out a JIRA for that.
Anyway, kudos to LL and all those content creators who contributed to the new avatars, I’m in the process of trying them out, and they seem to look great and doesn’t make too much lag either.
June 18th, 2008 at 5:52 PM
FINALY! NEWBIES WONT LOOK SO NOOBISH
June 18th, 2008 at 6:11 PM
They all look super! And now newbies wont look so bad, and neither will SL!
Suggestion though: Maybe allow users to customize their avatar upon registration? Like size, hair colour, ect…. Lots of games do that and maybe it would be convenient for the person to customize before they get in-world.
Dunno, just sounded good to me ;P
June 18th, 2008 at 6:23 PM
now if there was only a fix for lag so they would rez properly an timely, then maybe there is still hope for a better SL, but im not holding my breath on that one, still have a memory leak that appears to online to becoming a new staple of sl life, like asset crashes, lag, grey people, and dropped sims weve all come to love in the sl world of break and lackluster performance.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:33 PM
oh no! these means creating entire new (additional) wardrobes! lol, thank goodness i like to do that! lol, excellent Linden!!!
this is fun and you are keeping it “fresh”. i applaud your work on improving the viewer and that is soooo important, but that lacks the glam that a purely visual thing like new avatars gives to new residents and the wider appeal that new avatars will have
nice work all and thank you
June 18th, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Lookin’ good.
June 18th, 2008 at 7:13 PM
OK now you all have a suit, shined shoes, and a decent haircut.
No more excuses. Now get a job!
June 18th, 2008 at 7:27 PM
wow thanks for the new threads LL! love my new ‘musician guy’ shirt!
June 18th, 2008 at 7:45 PM
The generous Flea Bussy, principle designer at Grendel’s Children ROCKS. Exceedingly. So does the whole Grendel’s team…or should I say menagerie?….coven….hoard?…ah, er, hmmmm.
June 18th, 2008 at 7:45 PM
“If You Don’t Look Good, We Don’t Look Good”
this is going to be my all time favorite linden quote.
June 18th, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Oh no, Purple/Pink Shirt Girl With Long Hair and Guy in Jeans And T Shirt are gone??!! LOL!
Well done to all invovled in these great new avatars.
And I would like to add my vote for Ruth - please don’t remove her!! Ruth has served us well and deserves to be elevated to “SL Mother”
We ALL came from Ruth
Ang
June 18th, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Wow, I’ve been out in RL for a day and 3 posts appeared all of a sudden!
Anyway, neat new avatars! It’s always great to see Lindens and residents working together. I hope this tradition of engaging residents will get even better!
The mist that replaced Ruth has made my sl snapshots look better, in fact, when on a Space Junky concert recently, the mists looked really good with their particles and effects!
I agree with dusanwriter about getting some sort of HUD or widget for avatar customization.
June 18th, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Yes lets quickly bury the post on DMCA… ‘enforcement’ and the birthday party’s past and present… though you say it was all a big misunderstanding.. and evidently robin linden was part of that misunderstanding..
So um yeah new avatars are nice. the old ones were very bad… but we have more important things to talk about and it is your job as communicator to talk to us about them… but well… is it your job to communicate?
June 18th, 2008 at 8:30 PM
It’s aboot Bloody Time!!! Goood Job ^^
June 18th, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Oh good, now these noobs can get a job instead of waiting 30 days to get hired like every other place does. Oh and stop camping…you are now able to get a job LOL
June 18th, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Although I gotta say…i am kinda jealous I didnt look good a year ago when I rezzed.
June 18th, 2008 at 8:56 PM
@62 When I signed up it was random what you got. What I got looked like BERNARD MANNING (if you don’t know who that is, keep it that way) and made me scream. My avatar still looks like a monkey to me, no matter what improvements have been made!
These are much better looking, that certainly makes SL easier and more accessible to the masses who are less gamer savvy than your customers of days gone by …
June 18th, 2008 at 9:12 PM
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June 18th, 2008 at 9:16 PM
hahahaha ….is funny very2 funny i like the robot sound
great job man…lol
June 18th, 2008 at 9:32 PM
this is absolutely great news!
but drat. now I have to learn to recognize a whole new group of avatars as being new!
June 18th, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Wow, thanks, they all look very good. Nice of you to keep adding fine work like that to everybody.
June 18th, 2008 at 9:46 PM
BTW I saw a couple of these in a VERY insalubrious area of SL (VERY insalubrious), armed in a non-combat area a couple of weeks ago. I even thought that this might be the new uniform for those who in other times and places get banned from the likes of Habbo Hotel for making an avatar with an afro and a white suit …
Which is kind of ironic, since there probably will be waves of griefers just loving that boxbot and going to very insalubrious areas of SL which are non-combat with weapons …
June 18th, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Haha to the comment about the big booties!
These look great, and a wonderful thing for the new player to have.
coco
June 18th, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I think it is great that you have added to the line of avatars and given content creators a chance to show some of their creations.
Would you mind sharing how these creators were chosen?? Seems a bit unfair to all the others who create clothing and avatars to just arbitrarily pick a few to highlight and plug in the library.
Also, it seems some are not complete as shown in the pictures, and many of the perms change when pulled from your inventory. I thought all Library was supposed to be Full Perm. Could you clarify this for me please.
DRD
June 18th, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Nice additions, good work to the creators, good of LL to use resident content for these
NAMES!, they need names!
Only trouble is it’s going to be harder to spot the noob, but with decent looks now and bank transfer payments, they have no excuse for begging for money
June 18th, 2008 at 10:52 PM
@38
I agree but feet are very complex and can be hidden in prim boots etc, but we do need our bottoms reworked ie extra mesh detail around that whole area. Perhaps use some polygons from the ears and eyebrows
June 18th, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Awesome I am a noob and hopefully a better looking noob from now on!
June 18th, 2008 at 11:38 PM
i’ve heard that LL changed around a few things on the avatars, namely adjusting shapes ( so prim parts no longer fit right), taking things from one creators avatar and using them on another.
not cool.
so very not cool.
you asked the COMMUNITY for avatars to be used, they put a lot of work in and you go and change them to what you beleive is “better”
June 18th, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I really don’t see the point of giving EVERYONE some 300 more undeletable inventory items!! Put the new avatars on the signup page, not in the inventory of experienced players who all have their own custom look(s) already made!
Also that these new avi’s come with the maker’s name is totally unfair competition. It seems certain merchants can have Lindens do their promo: they are on the newbie islands, they have sales space on Linden land, and now they are in everybody’s inventory.
I like the new avatars. But they do not make up for the inventory losses I and everyone has suffered with the asset server problems of the past months, and are needless clutter for experienced players. Please give us the option to DELETE them. Thanks.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I like the new avies but will miss Ruth…NOT!
@13: “Thanks for showing us the pics LL. Now we can study them and learn how to detect them so we can avoid them.”
Remember, you were a noob once too. How would you have felt if everyone had avoided you then? It’s your choice to avoid noobs, of course, but what if everyone did? Just something to think about…
@23: “Please say the robot wont become the new ruthie default??”
At least the robot is gender-neutral…
June 19th, 2008 at 12:14 AM
What great looking n00b avatars. You got some great SL designers on board for this. Kudos!!
Now the camper bots are gonna be a whole lot easier on the eyes.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Hats off.. looking nice.. wtg LL.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:35 AM
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June 19th, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Well, first I would like to say that although the new avs are better than the old ones, they are still going to be all over the place and people are going to get sick of looking like every other person that comes along. So, even though newbs have better choices, I think eventually, they will want their own look. That is why, as a content creator in SL, I am not extremely worried about the new additions to the inventory. HOWEVER, what I am concerned with is exactly what River Ely pointed out. How is it that these creators were chosen to give items and others were left out. I can tell you that I sell my shapes at 4 of the top 7 stores when you search the word “shape” and I was not asked if I wanted to contribute in any way. It is unfair that I work so hard and other people are just given things. There are plenty of content creators that would have given items if they had been asked, particularly if we had known that our names were going to be plastered all over LL’s websites. Seems to me that things are never done fairly at LL.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:41 AM
BTW, I am not suggesting that the people who donated to the new avs are not hard workers and I would like to point out that I know some of them and they are great people. But, what I am saying is that if some people are going to be given the chance at TONS of free publicity, everyone should be given that same chance.
June 19th, 2008 at 1:20 AM
Needs more furries! =D
June 19th, 2008 at 1:59 AM
I don’t know… I think that first one at the top looks like a child instead of an adult… which is deceptive to noobs coming in the game… as this is an adult site and children shouldn’t be playing on this one… I think more mature styled avetars would be better to have them start. But, overall…. for a noob these are definately better than what was originally provided… but no where near as good as you can get when you get into custom bodies and skins created by some of the best designers in SL… but those can come later for noobs! ~smiles~
June 19th, 2008 at 2:22 AM
now if the asset servers allow them to attach the items it will be great!!
June 19th, 2008 at 2:24 AM
A few questions:
- How were the contributing businesses selected for this lifelong free advertising campaign? Was there an announcement that I’ve missed?
- Assuming there was no announcement (I never saw any): What can I as an avatar creator do to also have my shop name and notecard with landmark forced into every resident’s inventory as undeletable spam?
- Which leads to yet another question: How can I delete this spam from my inventory?
PS: There is a thing called aspect ratio that is useful to know about when posting images.
June 19th, 2008 at 2:26 AM
All very well giving new avatars a makeover, but PLEASE log the noobs IP address and prevent them from having new account after account and causing grief. I am sick of them rezzing physical cubes that lag the sim I live and work in. Report abuse and they just create another account. IT IS EASY TO BAN THE IP ADDRESS IF THEY GET REPORTED FOR GRIEFING UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES. LOOK AFTER YOUR PAYING RESIDENTS.
June 19th, 2008 at 2:28 AM
You can’t ban by IP when people use dynamic dialups, as it is perfectly normal in i.e. Germany.
June 19th, 2008 at 2:40 AM
oh yea one more thing added to my inventory thanks,
and thanks for deleting the stuff i actually want in my inventory to add this stuff, thanks again. ugh. and yes the skins for the african americans could be a lot better, but no worries to me i already look great. Thanks ll
June 19th, 2008 at 3:14 AM
#56) Actually that was an advertising slogan used by Vidal Sassoon back in the 70s.
June 19th, 2008 at 3:19 AM
@31 i agree i lost my wedding ring that way :(. and i kno im posting back to back , but i cant help but feel as this being an distraction. maybe maybe not. but hey.so now that we have the noobs not lookin like “noobs” (watever) whats next ? are we gonna fix some problems ? are our attachments gonna stay in the places we put them? in the past 2 months sl ate 4 kinetica ao’s no copy animations inc. and 2 chimeras and frankly im gettin sick of spendin my ls on them. its not fair. so instead of adding this whatever its supposed to be try adding the stuff that was lost due to the unstable asset probs.. idk just a thought. but congrats to all the creators that were chosen, now u have a special place in our inventorys
June 19th, 2008 at 3:35 AM
YAY BOX BOT! :3 i cant wait to see the new stuff… too bad i haven o time to mess with it!
June 19th, 2008 at 3:58 AM
I love the Dragonet - it looks great and moves well.
@49 - Joker Opus:
You *can* edit your appearance at registration after choosing a starting look; at least when I signed up you could. I must have spent 30 minutes at Orientation Island experimenting with my appearance before I moved on to the next help station, lol.
@63 - Cherry:
Have you tried investing in a decent skin? My avie was ugly till a friend gave me a good skin and hair; then all of a sudden she was beautiful! You don’t even have to pay a lot; many places have discount products or even freebie samples of their merchandise.
June 19th, 2008 at 4:13 AM
A word to those who think their inventories are being “spammed” (ugh, that word alone makes me wanna hurl):
The Library part of your Inventory is, in a way, “hardcoded.” Think of it as being one master copy, accessible by all residents. It doesn’t count toward your own personal inventory items (which are, after all, entirely located inside the - drum roll please - “Inventory” folder).
How anyone can even say they’re being spammed when the new content is simply part of the static, permanent and unchangeable Library (which you can keep completely out of sight) is beyond me.
June 19th, 2008 at 4:16 AM
/me gooit een knuppeltjuh in het hoenderhok.. >:)
* “Less than a week before SL5B!”
* “If You Don’t Look Good, We Don’t Look Good”
Hmmmh… Katt Linden ? These posts should have been merged. Might have been rly interesting to read comments on as to why LL does not supply a genuine child avatar to the newcomers as a welcome into ‘our imagination’ …
June 19th, 2008 at 4:17 AM
Oh thank you! I think its great! And so cute! Its a tough world world for the new to second life, this will help them blend !!
OMGosh! This is so awesome!
love
Hedy
June 19th, 2008 at 5:03 AM
@97 Yes, but they managed to use completely useless fluff to bump the serious topics of mainland supply and DMCA right off the top four topics in less than a day after they went up.
June 19th, 2008 at 5:43 AM
The new newbies look amazing!
They even look better than most oldbies
June 19th, 2008 at 6:12 AM
Yes you can now look GOOD … grey..missing textures..laggy.. unable to TP…cant change your clothes… find your AO borked cos it contained a bad script or anim… but..look GOOD
June 19th, 2008 at 6:38 AM
I LOVE the new avies! I wear the Gamer Girl constantly and Im not a noob. I think people should stop bickering and just enjoy them for petes sake. The designers have done a great job..they took time OUT OF THEIR own time to make these. They didnt have too. So perhaps in the future..depending on the peoples response that more creators will be involved.
@41 under the Eyes section of appearance..use as Nylon did the POP EYE (I think thats it) option to do the eyebrows and eyes same time.
June 19th, 2008 at 7:04 AM
Simply drag the folder on to your avatar?
WARNING: dont do this if you are wearing any AO, HUD, dance chim or sphere, or you might wind up hit by the JIRA 6110 issue, and lose them.
Otherwise, lovely designs and nice to see something different, great job by the creators!
June 19th, 2008 at 7:29 AM
yay more crap while the basics in SL continue to slide further downhill, pathetic
June 19th, 2008 at 7:37 AM
They look great. Ruth, ” You have come a long way baby” lol
A person almost doesn’t have to buy skins or clothing now.
“89 Captain Gemini Says:
June 19th, 2008 at 2:26 AM
All very well giving new avatars a makeover, but PLEASE log the noobs IP address and prevent them from having new account after account and causing grief”
IDV at log in would prevent this.
June 19th, 2008 at 7:51 AM
“Toy LaFollette Says:
June 19th, 2008 at 7:29 AM
yay more crap while the basics in SL continue to slide further downhill, pathetic”
Wow, toy, you’ve been posting this for, what, two years now. One would assume you’d have left by now.
June 19th, 2008 at 8:14 AM
@106 if you actually kept up with me you would know its been a lot longer. You would also know I stay because of friends, not a love of SL, I dont need pom-poms ya know
June 19th, 2008 at 8:28 AM
June 19th, 2008 at 8:59 AM
nice job (Y)
but yeh
BRING RUTH BACK!!!
xx
June 19th, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Whenever something is done to improve a visual aspect of SL, some people will moan about it and say, “FIX THE BUGS FIRST!”.
I have noticed a bit of an upturn in some performance aspects recently - sadly marred by several days of bad lag for me - but I do feel some progress is being made, even though things had to get to a critical point before the problems we have been banging on about for over a year were finally addressed.
But I strongly feel that these new avatars are a great addition - especially for new residents. My guess is that the people involved in this project were part of an artistic team and not taking away from the resource pool of people who specialise in the mechanics of the world or making it run properly.
OK, so you guys still need to work on the way the new lighting system makes our avies look so ugly, and that’s the reason I clicked on this article in the first place, because right now we AREN’T looking so good due to windlight.
The other thing is that a revision of the avatar system is long, long overdue. Obviously, when you guys designed the original avatar creation system, you could not have foreseen the imaginative ways that residents would use prims to create clothing. No dispect to the people over at LL, but our efforts in clothing creation has surpassed the avatar system and a big update is needed.
First of all, the system clothes need some attention. I would like to see some extra clothing layers added, suck as lower skin and upper skin. Lower skin would be the base skin, upper skin would be for tattoos or skin effects such as bruises, scratches or body art. Then at least another layer to the lower body region, plus a ‘face mask’ layer. Finally, they system skirt needs an alternative version creating. The existing one is just horrible and was fine when it was created, but seeing as people make some amazing fashions, more control over that clothing part would be good.
As far as shape changes, I would like to see the ability to move the face features about more. Right now we can change the poisition of the mouth. Why not the eyes, ears and nose too? I guess the whole body system could use a bit of an overhaul. These days there are a lot of people who want more realistic bigger avies and the current system doesn’t really do fatness without it looking cartoonish.
When it somes to attachment points, it really has to be a bit of a compromise between our requirements and the logistics of prim counts, but for sure, we do need some more attachment points. The ones I would like to see added are: Neck, knees, ankles wrists and another head attachment point - say forehead.
Already I can hear some people crying our “No way! That’s just asking for more lag!”. Sure it is, but I think that if some of the other problems in SL could be addressed we should be OK. For example, I use the Nicholaz viewer and I can be very primmy in a sim full of primmy avies and experience only minor lag. Only in places with lots of particle effects and flashing lights do I begin to suffer problems. This identifies one big problem in the official viewer. The problem of memory leaks has never been properly addressed. A more stable viewer is so important. ALmost everyone I know uses the Nicholaz viewer and we can all ‘prim it up’ and function very happily. In fact, the only time we are usually aware of a problem is if someone complains to us about us lagging them. Invariably, we explain about the Nicholaz, the person who complained downloads and installs it and instead of being angry with us, they say thanks for pointing them to the Nick. Obviously, in some areas, being covered in prims simply won’t do and in these cases, common sense says we drop the heavy prim attachments for everyone’s benefit.
I really do welcome these new avatar shapes and outfits. It’s a good addition and a move in the right direction for SL as a whole. Certainly. performance and stability issues should be the priority for LL as a whole, but that doesn’t mean people with other areas of expertise shouldn’t be making SL a more interesting place for us, so my thanks and appreciation goes out to everyone involved in this project.
June 19th, 2008 at 9:08 AM
109 s Says: BRING RUTH BACK!!!
Vote Ruth for President this election year. . LOL
June 19th, 2008 at 9:16 AM
hmmmm @103 when I try to “drag” the folder(s) in the Library Clothing section to My avatar I get a big “NOT SIGN” (black circle with slash) and when I simply right click on the folder I get “no options”… Since I have nevr tried to use anything from the library before - is this how it normally acts or is this assets server overload again because 40,000 people are looking at those one set of folders?
June 19th, 2008 at 9:32 AM
We are constantly reminded by the Lindens, to wear fewer prims when teleporting or crossing sim boundaries, yet the new avatar Dragonlet is mostly prims. Now, Do Linden prims not count when teleporting, or is there some magic juju that makes it ok to fly against the thread of convention propounded by lindens for the last two years I have been here?
June 19th, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I think this is a great idea, back a little while ago I tried to get some friends into SL and they were turned off by the default looking AVs and how much time (and possibly money) was required to look good. Having some really nice AVs with gear and all ready for new users will greatly help in making them feel comfortable to go out and explore SL. It’s always fun to see a few new things pop up in my inventory to play with from time to time that I can also put on to show new