[UPDATED] New Release Candidate Viewer: 1.20 RC0 Available
Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 at 6:02 PM by: Bridie LindenWe’re excited to announce that Second Life 1.20 RC0 is now available for download from the test software page. This Release Candidate viewer brings lots of goodness in the form of fixes, a new UI look and feel (formerly codenamed ‘Dazzle’) and UI improvements, scriptable glow and better support for 3D input devices!
IMPORTANT NOTE: There is a known issue in this Release Candidate on OS X with Apple’s Mighty Mouse. The primary mouse button will toggle the “Flycam” mode. This will cause unusual behavior and we do not suggest using Second Life 1.20 RC0 with a Mighty Mouse at this time. We will fix this bug in the next RC.
[UPDATE 9:48 AM] Tools menu: The Tools menu has not gone missing! It now displays in the main menu when editing/creating objects. Click on the Build button or right click and select Create. Existing short cuts (CTL + 1, 2, 3) all still work and will also activate the Tools menu.
Reminder: Release Candidate viewers are optional updates that contain the latest round of bug fixes and/or soon-to-be-released new features. Please try the RC viewers only if you want to participate in the bug reporting process and identify issues before they become the default viewer. You can have both a Release Candidate and the primary viewer installed side by side on your computer, so if issues are encountered when testing the RC viewer you can switch back to the production viewer.
Details:
UI: This Release Candidate includes significant updates to the visual design and architecture of the Viewer’s user interface, including:
- A new, lighter color scheme
- Improved UI graphics (icons, buttons, etc)
- Ability to customize text color of Instant Messages
- Enhancements to the UI texture rendering system
- Ability to reference textures by filename
- Support for non-powers-of-two textures
- Support for PNG textures
Some important notes regarding the new UI appearance:
- The new UI appearance is installed by default with 1.20; Residents who wish to continue using the pre-1.20 UI appearance should not update to 1.20.
- Based on feedback from the Dazzle First Look viewer, we are tracking a number of bugs related to the new UI appearance; see PJira for the complete list.
- 1.20 includes a limited capability to create custom UI “skins.” Although this functionality is not officially supported by Linden Lab, a basic overview of the current XML functionality for creating custom skins is available on the Second Life wik
- The new UI appearance was developed in parallel with ongoing initiatives to improve Viewer stability and crash rates, and did not impact those important projects.
- For more information about the new UI appearance, including a list of frequently-asked questions, please see the Dazzle page on the Second Life wiki. For more information about Linden Lab’s longer-term plans to enable Resident-created UI “skins,” please see the User Interface Roadmap.
As always, Residents concerned about user interface and usability issues are welcome to attend Benjamin Linden’s weekly in-world User Experience Office Hour, held every Thursday at 3pm in Beaumont
LSL scripting for object glow!
- Script a prim’s glow attribute, details on the Second Life wiki:
- You may want to try a script such as THIS!
default
{
touch_start(integer total_number)
{
list values = llGetPrimitiveParams([PRIM_GLOW, 1]);
float glow = llList2Float(values, 0);
llSetPrimitiveParams([PRIM_GLOW, ALL_SIDES, 1.0 - glow]);
}
}
Improved Joystick and 3D input device support
- Integrated a new open source library created by 3Dconnexion designed to integrate multi axis input devices with Second Life
- Joystick devices can now control the Avatar, Edited Objects, or the Flycam (View menu > Joystick Flycam)
- Added a “Joystick Setup” window to the Preferences under “Input & Camera” for adjusting multi axis input devices
- Settings are currently optimized for Logitech’s 3Dconnexion SpaceNavigator but should be tunable for any joystic or 3D imput device
Other changes:
- Removed voice setup wizard from Viewer
- Removed “Detecting hardware” from first-use startup to save 10 seconds of start time
- Removed “Critical Message” string from startup community standards dialog
- Removed “Start Gesture” from menu bar
- Removed “do you want streaming audio” dialog
- Removed Friends dropdown on Map
- Display the Camera and Movement controls by default
- Added online offline notification to open IM windows
- One click sit not be available if you’re already sitting
- Replaced “(hippos)” and “(waiting)” with “(Loading…)”
- Print the name of the missing gesture in the error message
- Double-tap forward to run
- Adjusted the right-justified text on the splash screen
- Ctrl-shift-1 now displays Statistics in a floater
- Login progress bar change
- Option available to turn off all group titles to make name tags smaller
- Small UI tweaks made to the “near me” floater for usability
List of fixes:
- Havok 4 — Increased the max height for building objects to 4096m
- SVC-747: Estate Banned Residents list doesn’t increment higher than 252
- VWR-5498: WindLight Release Candidate doesn’t rembember correct size of IM window between sessions
- VWR-747: Texture preview should not have constrained aspect ratio
- VWR-3984: WindLight: Certain snapshot options incorrectly capture a part of the screen
- VWR-3438: WindLight: Glow (including water reflections) shows through HUD objects
- VWR-4616: Snapshot, clicking on more removes current pic
- VWR-1405: llMapDestination does not work as designed for OS X/Intel viewers
- VWR-3625: Highlights don’t affect non-root prims
- VWR-2113: Mac Auto Updater “hides”, giving appearance of failing
- VWR-2755: duplicate PARCEL_FLAG_RESTRICT_PUSHOBJECT line in keywords.ini
- VWR-442: Require confirmation when inviting a new group owner
- VWR-4903: Show avatar’s name in the “Eject” and “Freeze” confirmation screens
- VWR-6066: “Are you sure you want to clear you browser cache” in “Perferences > Web > Clear Now” has a typo
- VWR-5656: Secondlife icon missing in Linux version 1.19.1 RC1 ?
- VWR-2600: Add option to enable Full-Scene Anti-Aliasing (FSAA) in the viewer
- VWR-3633: Avatar impostor of not-yet-rezzed avatar not appearing
- Localization of camera controls/tooltips
- Fixed: glow is rendered on property lines and selection silhouettes
- LLImageJ2C now indicates what en/decoding implementation is being used
- New messaging to inform Residents about consequences of selecting “Can modify my objects”
- Fixed: Estate tools in non-english UI cannot change maturity level of islands from PG to Mature.
- Fixed: Agent Limit spontaneously resets to zero
- Fixed: Web control code does not correctly reject sl:// links
- Fixed: Wait before printing missing gestures if the name isn’t yet available
- Abrupt velocity changes of SL camera are smoother
- llMapDestination() can be used to open place dialog to teleport user without opening map
- Fixed: Cannot close Buy Land floater when (waiting for data) from web site
- Fixed: Gestures appear in random order
- Fixed: Preference Help button is not pointing to the correct url
- Added Hyperlink to MOTD.
- Fixed: Occlusion crash on SIS cards
- Fixed: VBO related crash on ATI R100 cards
- Fixed: lowest avatar detail is higher than before
- Fixed: Avatar Impostor sprites have opaque black edges
- Fixed: Impostors tilt
- Fixed: Impostors need to update once after they stop walking
- Fixed: Provide way to visually mute “costly” avatars (check cost: client->rendering->info displays->avatar render cost)
Source changes:
- The settings system has been significantly revamped. llcontroldef.cpp has been replaced with an XML file controlling all settings values: app_settings/settings.xml
- The command line parser has also been revamped. All but a few special arguments are now associated with control settings and controlled by the file app_settings/cmd_line.xml
- VWR-2645: Source typo RELEASE_FOR_DOWNLOAD should be LL_RELEASE_FOR_DOWNLOAD ?
- Fixed: g++ 4 viewer compile issues
- Dead code removal createLegacyWearableFromAvatar
You might also notice that we have chosen to refer to this version as Second Life 1.20 (RC0). This and all subsequent releases will be referred to as “1.20″ or “1.21″. There will be no more smaller numbered feature releases as we’ve used in the past (e.g., 1.19.0.5, 1.19.1.4).
As always, please continue to report any new issues in the Issue Tracker and be sure to set “Affects Version/s” to “1.20 Release Candidate“. Resident participation is always welcome at our weekly (Wednesdays @ 3pm PST time) inworld bug triages, too! Thank you!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:07 PM
NICE !!! TIME TO TEST!!!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Dazzle is horrible. The color scheme is painful to look at. Don’t roll it into the main viewer until custom skins are FULLY ENABLED AND SUPPORTED so we can turn it off.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:11 PM
i was forced to update…. and now i cant log on?
dns errors?
4 tries
local sf area.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Woot Dazzle and Windlight finally!!!… Brindle why is movement/camera controls and chat logging activated on default now?
April 9th, 2008 at 6:14 PM
NO! NO! NO! Dazzle has to be one of the worst-themed client applications I’ve ever seen. It’s like you’ve ripped off Microsoft’s new “Windows Live” theme and just made it more blindingly bright. On a positive note, the new button shapes and icons are a vast improvement.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:14 PM
awww no more waiting for hippos? :((
/me goes to look at skinning info and to make weirdness with glowness.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Before all those peoples are going to try to verbaly kill you, let me say that I do actually like dazzle, whindlight and havok 4, and that without any high-end equipment, but with an one-year old laptop.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:20 PM
[...] Viewer. 1.20.0 RC New Release Candidate Viewer: 1.20 RC0 Available Official Second Life Blog Comments to follow in a few mins. I wanted to make a thread about it before someone else did. [...]
April 9th, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Ugh… I usually don’t complain, but I HATED Dazzle. I didn’t know I’d be forced into using it. I’m not happy. It hurts my eyes.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:25 PM
I can has skin manager plz
April 9th, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Dazzle ROCKED!!!! Better then that ugly gray color of the main client!!!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:25 PM
It’s great to see the fixes (and there’s some good ones there), but I won’t be touching Dazzle until it’s a required viewer to get on the grid, or there’s supported and easy way to revert back to the 1.19.x UI (or something better, rather than something so much worse, you’d have a hard time imagining it).
April 9th, 2008 at 6:26 PM
Is anyone else getting red shadows on prims that should be invisible? I un-and-reinstalled and it starts showing up in the last three releases. Haven’t messed with my controls ’cause Imma newbie. Haven’t seen anyone mention it. Only me?
April 9th, 2008 at 6:26 PM
Great umm… just finishing this HUD that matches the old viewer’s colors and now you rip the carpet right out from underneath me. This isn’t a simple color change to fix, I have to redo 170 graphics.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Can we have just have Windlight back please?
April 9th, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Hiya!
Love the efforts, but I have to agree that Dazzle hurts my eyes
Would adore the ability to skin the UI!
Thanks for all the hard work, folks!
Lys
April 9th, 2008 at 6:31 PM
How do I map my friends??? I use this option all the time to TP to them… :/
And no hippos! >
April 9th, 2008 at 6:31 PM
1.19.1(RC4) had a ‘known issue’ of ‘crashes on Mac Book Pro’. I don’t see that in the fixed list, and I don’t see a ‘known issue’ list. What happened to that? Seeing as how this is a forced upgrade, I have no ability to run a previous version other than 1.19.1(4) (even production release) am I going to install this and lose any capability to run Second Life whatsoever? Forced upgrades have to be eliminated!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:32 PM
OK, you guys are complaining, but, if you love the old skin, all you have to do is tweak it a little to get the old skin back. As the blog says;
[1.20 includes a limited capability to create custom UI “skins.” Although this functionality is not officially supported by Linden Lab, a basic overview of the current XML functionality for creating custom skins is available on the Second Life wiki.]
And, you HAVE to love the double-click dash!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:32 PM
I thought the upgrade was optional. I downloaded it & now I cant log in. This is the second time this has happended to me. Why? There needs to be a fix for that…
April 9th, 2008 at 6:33 PM
wow - loved the first dazzle but missed windlight too much to carry on using it, this looks great and the list of fixes is impressive - looking forward to giving it a thorough testing this weekend! Hope it also dents the HUGE memory leak that’s in the current mainstream viewer - that crashes me too often to be funny any more. Looking good here
April 9th, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Dazzle is a considerable aesthetic improvement over the existing browser. I’ve been using the older Dazzle client over the Windlight client simply because it was so much nicer to look at and use. I’m glad to have both in one program now.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:34 PM
The color scheme is way friendlier, for the beginning it takes week to get used to but i totally love the new features and especially the snapshot function for wide screen users!
Not everyone will like it - cause changes are bad
but i totally appreciate the effort
if you could now take care of disabling unwanted group chat i buy a T-Shirt!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:34 PM
errrrr…. why does the First Look link refer to a newer revision than the
RC0. Is it a more updated (fixes) version of the RC0? Both First Look
and RC0 are built using Dazzle and Windlight and so I have to ask.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Thank you, i have now a marvelous choppy world, i can’t walk or run.
Marvellous improvements.
What do i need torun SL now ?
Second Life 1.20.0 (84432) Apr 9 2008 03:59:09 (Second Life Release Candidate)
CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (1799 MHz)
Memory: 2048 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 7600 GT/AGP/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL Version: 2.1.2
LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.14307 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.13_0000000000)
April 9th, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Regardless of what I think of the color scheme, everything else rocks. Thanks for raising the build height, I love the support for non powers of 2 textures and just look at that list of fixes… It’s massive : )
April 9th, 2008 at 6:39 PM
JOYSTICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YYAAYY! Now I can finally use my old Playstation2 controller.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:40 PM
It looks great! Except ITS TOO BRIGHT and I have no idea if people are taljking to me in IMs unless I close the window.
Oh yes, and it wont stay running for more than THIRTY SECONDS.
Dont we beta test this game ENOUGH even with the regular viewer? I mean, if my cable service goes out for ten minutes they give me a days refund. I barely get a “sorry” from LL.
I’d MUCH rather have the 2 year old bugs fixed, at LEAST the teleporting crash that everyone has…rather than new crappy ways to have bling and Havok4 engine with almost nothing utilizing it in-game.
Thanks for the effort, though, but I accept it like yet another piece of jewelry for Christmas that I dont want, and the house still needs painting.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:40 PM
The only bad thing I can see wrong with it is the new color scheme. It is so bright that it gives me migraines, even if I keep my screen at 60% brightness that I usually keep it out. I’m literally scared to turn it up to 100% brightness for when I want to see what an item looks like at that brightness level. It would probably cause a migraine to develop within 30 seconds. Please leave it an option for people to have the other color scheme who may also have problems with brightness levels as well.
Otherwise, I like it and I typically find that the RC’s are faster to load, easier to fly and crashes less. I rarely, if ever, also do the Crazy Legs maneuver in the RC.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Why? Why do you feel the need to push dazzle down our throats? It’s too bright. You should make it where we can change the skin before moving something like that to the main viewer, true, this is the rc viewer, but we all know that within a few tests, this will be required, and no way to go back to the not blindingly bright ui.The rest of the update is welcome changes, but for the love of all that is linden, please get rid of the bright blue ui.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:41 PM
The new UI appearance is installed by default with 1.20; Residents who wish to continue using the pre-1.20 UI appearance should not update to 1.20.
LOL you cant get on if you dont update, what a joke…… Also if your gonna change the UI to the horrible grey metallic look at least give us the option to change skins geeezzzzz
Comon SL get it right
April 9th, 2008 at 6:42 PM
I don’t like the new UI look. How do I get the old one back?
April 9th, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Looking forward to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Actually after reading comments and thinking more about this..why is LL making second life so difficult, this is meant to be an escape from first life what now users have to take a course just to change the user interface to suit their needs :/, restore windlight, or at the very least code the option into the bloody preferences to change custom UI’s, XML should not be a requirement that people learn. thats your job!!!!!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Hey thanks Lindens. I spent soooooooooo much cash on my avatar just so you can force me to download this piece of wank that makes me see blue and red cones coming out of everything. And yes, I have a top spec computer so it’s not a fault my end. Oh and the new menu and interface? There was nothing wrong with the old one. Before you start pissing around with dazzle why not sort out the tech problems that really piss us off?
April 9th, 2008 at 6:45 PM
This is the most ugly awful interface, yet. Icky yucko. How many neon IM and Inventory things to I need to see. I want to see SL. Not Ultra-Blue and Silver IM windows. I like the darker backgrounds. Bring them back! Not to mention a smooth interface, no choppiness. *sigh*
April 9th, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Ewwwww, the Dazzle color scheme is terrible and now with the new update I keep crashing when ever I capture someone. I’m totally disappointed in it and sad I lost my old RC0
April 9th, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I would like to join the call not to make 1.20 only with this interface. Please wait until you can select the old one as an option. The color scheme is too distracting for immersive experience that SL is.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:48 PM
not nice, time to crash.
real fast loading, but:
I freeze when I speak, at menu bar the tools are missing (german interface), horror lagg..
April 9th, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Why in the heck would you guys think LIGHT BLUE was a better choice than a neutral black and grey? The interface is HIDEOUS. I much enjoyed the fact that it was darker and didn’t strain my eyes as much. This SUCKS. For the love of Pete, put it back!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:49 PM
I’m glad I came here first before DL (Mighty Mouse). I was looking forward in trying out Dazzle+Windlight. I feel so left out
Guess I’ll have to wait till the next RC.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Oh no this means they will make dazzle mandatory?!
Dazzle is ugly and looks more outdated than the classic look!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:51 PM
There has GOT to be a setting to change the visual appearance back. I can’t use this thing.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:53 PM
@18
This issue is still being investigated, but appears to be an Apple hardware issue: VWR-1749: Second Life viewer client freezes on MacBook Pro
Please see Pastrami Linden’s post which includes links to the 1.19.0.5 viewer:
http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/04/03/the-new-viewer-a-well-oiled-machine/
April 9th, 2008 at 6:53 PM
“Removed Friends dropdown on Map”
Can you please explain why this is so? Else I mean to start a JIRA soliciting votes to keep it. I know I use it plenty and other people who do, and if people don’t want to be mapped that’s what friend permissions are for.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Is it possible to chance the color to suit person taste? because frankly speaking this one needs it!. One color doesnt suit all taste.please bare that in mind which choking us on this………
April 9th, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Worst color scheme I have EVER seen! Make sure we can change it before forcing this down our throats.
April 9th, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Well, LL have finally found a way to make me stop using the firstlook client. Back to the regular old SL client for me.
The new UI is completely unusable.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:00 PM
This is horrible. It looks hideous, and why would you remove the friends dropdown from the map window? I pray this never sees full release, I’ve already switched back to the regular viewer.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:01 PM
TAKE THAT WINDLIGHT CRAP OFFFFF DAZZLE!!! Its HORRIBLE!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Has anybody had luck yet with joysticks in the 1.20RC0 viewer? Neither of my 2 joysticks seem to be recognized by the viewer, but maybe that’s because I’m not using a SpaceNavigator (which our input library provider 3Dconnexion offers for the low low price of $59)
April 9th, 2008 at 7:02 PM
I think we should all just start yelling and screaming @ them cuz they dont hear us!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:03 PM
@45
There was some confusion over how the feature worked, making it seem broken to some. The friends map dropdown only displayed online friends who allowed you to see them on the map — which was usually a very small subset of your entire friends list. Our Rx team recommended removing this feature from the map.
You can instead find a friend on the map by opening their profile and clicking on ‘Find on Map’.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Looks yummy! ^-O
April 9th, 2008 at 7:04 PM
HOW DO I TURN THIS WINDLIGHT OFFFFF?!?!?!? someone please tell me
April 9th, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Aside form the dazzle part, and the REMOVAL OF THE ABILITY TO MAP FRIENDS
This is a pretty good client. I love the antialiasing and avatar rendering cost.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:07 PM
@7:
A three-year old laptop here, with a similarly old video card (GeForce Go FX5200)
I think Dazzle is neat, a bit too bright for my liking though. But what I definitely like best about it, and I think everyone seems to be overlooking this fact, is that Dazzle also means that it’s now easier to customize the UI itself and maybe even create new skins to be distributed around.
As for the nay-sayers, reading around in the wiki page there’s a link to a pre-1.20-based UI to be used with Dazzle: http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=242483?lang=en
Just check it out. It’s likely to keep improving with time.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:08 PM
@56 set the perf setting to low that will in some ways turn off windlight
April 9th, 2008 at 7:08 PM
It’s nice but it feels almost too bright. I hope they include a way to change the UI colors or even just change the UI gamma without changing the in-world gamma…
April 9th, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Looks like the ugly netscape web browser looked like shortly before Netsacpe was eliminated…
oh uh
April 9th, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Where is the Flycam?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Wow, painfully bright. I mostly like the style of the new UI, but the color scheme is just…
…blinding.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Lindens! Enough with adding all these bells and whistles and pay more attention to the nuts and bolts… Version 1.19.1 (4) on the Mac is UNUSABLE. Regardless of what setting I use in my preferences, I am lagging, with framerates consistently below 10, and objects rezzing that are well beyond the drawing distance specified. Entering a shopping area is an exercise in futility, and maneuverability in anything other than an open field is a nightmare.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Oh Joy! Slower loading and more lag! Just what this semi-luddite needs. Could you maybe consider fixing all the real problems that exist (like our attachments ending up in out behinds after teleports) before giving (forcing on) us “new and improved” things? Slapping paint over the rust doesn’t make the rust go away.
Maybe some of the real computer jocks like all the gee-whiz new stuff. I don’t really understand it. I just want things to work right every time. Is that asking too much?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:12 PM
oh my god what did you do to the interface I WANT TO CHANGE IT BACK!!!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:12 PM
[...] The problem mentioned in my "Linden Lab wants to break C:SI…" post was included in the just-announced V1.20 Release Candidate Viewer. [...]
April 9th, 2008 at 7:13 PM
@ 65 YOU GO BOIIII! U tell em, Us mac Users are MAD!!! grrr
April 9th, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I’m sorry, I take that back about the joystick…. I’m not really happy with it cause Linden only assigned them off as a normal input key on movement. Not cool. Plus… we still can’t go sideways while going forward? Come on! what year is this?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:14 PM
WOW, I am a RC lover, but this time, when heard that use Dazzle color scheme, I don’t want to try it. LIGHT COLOR SCHEME is HORRIBLE. This is SL, not XXwindoz. Please don’t do that. PLEASE.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Just tried this (for the first time)… it’s certainly… different.
I could probably get used to the colour of the UI buttons etc, but the background on chat/IM windows actually manages to hurt my eyes. :/
I think there at least needs to be an option to change to a scheme more similar to the old one, before this is released.
And I really don’t get the list of things that have been removed… particularly the friends dropdown on the map. I was just thinking about making a JIRA entry for it too Elle, but I’ll just go and vote on yours instead if you do.
I see it’s still possible to open a friend’s profile and then click the Find on Map button (if they’ve allowed it), but the dropdown list on the map was MUCH easier, and also that way you can easily see who has allowed it (and is online)… only way to do that now would be to go through your entire friends online list viewing their profiles, and waiting to see if the Find on Map button gets enabled on each one.
To the people saying they were forced to download it… that should only be the case if you were using the 1.19.1 RC4 Release Candidate Viewer (as I was, so I could switch between that and the old non-Windlight viewer without having to redo my graphics settings). I just installed the 1.19.1 Release viewer, and could log in again with it fine.
@13 Peaches: Are you sure you don’t have Highlight Transparent enabled? (Press Ctrl + Alt + T to toggle that on and off)
@35 Adamus: That sounds like you might have Show Updates enabled in the Advanced menu, try pressing Ctrl + Alt + Shift + U to disable it. (Just press it again if it’s not that)
April 9th, 2008 at 7:17 PM
To Djarum: But… gay is good! D:
This crashes within 3 minutes of launching it. I’m afraid I’ll have to go back to the old “ghetto” viewer…
April 9th, 2008 at 7:17 PM
WHO do you guys have working for ya? those monkeys that are on the Secondlife is Down page?
Joystick should make you walk forward when you push forward not fly… geez And moving joystick sideways makes you walk forward one step then when you let go it walks you back one step OMG what a joke
SAD SAD SAD SL do you guys actually listen to us or you just in your own little world???
April 9th, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Whats with the brightness
can we please dim the brightness down it takes away the want to use part.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I bet it took a whole ‘team’ weeks to come up with this garbage even though the overwhelming response was negative the first time it was released. Shouldn’t those people be working on fixing real issues? Dazzle is horrible no matter how you look at it.
Okay here’s a suggestion. All those coders out there who are currently tweaking LL’s garbage. How about getting together and making a working viewer. I am sure that a LOT of people would be willing to pay a nominal fee (1 USD) for something that works. It’s about time somebody started making money off of LL ’s inadequacies.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:23 PM
GOOD GRIEF! IS NO ONE BOTHERING TO READ THE FLIPPING ANSWERS YOUR GETTING!
Map friends is moved from the dropdown to the profile, click name in friends list, PROFILE, there it is on the left side FIND ON MAP.
and DAZZLE isn’t being SHOVED DOWN YOUR THROAT at this point. It’s a RELEASE CANDIDATE. Does the word “OPTIONAL” mean anything. If you don’t like it, DON’T USE IT. Or wait till somone makes some skins.
Jeeze people….
April 9th, 2008 at 7:23 PM
*sigh* I am crashing immediately now after log in - whether its looking at inventory to test some new thing someone sent me, or trying to rez that new thing, or looking around or whatever. Also can I please have the dull gray boring interface colors back? I like dull gray and boring, really! The new interface is distracting for me, I dont want bling on my interface *cries and reaches for the advil - that is if I can ever get the client up and running for more than 35 seconds* There absolutely has to be a way for us old farts to change the color scheme. And the crashing - oh the crashing - its not so fun. Welp guess its time to stop using the RC which I have enjoyed greatly for the last few months…
April 9th, 2008 at 7:23 PM
All fine (especially the possibility to turn on AA via client) …but DAZZLE looks horrible, it’s too bright and it hurts eyes, especially when u need to be online several hours. Please do not release this as official client without an option to revert to old color scheme, or to change it.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:24 PM
I love the look of Dazzle.
In my 3 years on SL I think this is just the 3rd time I have felt compelled to comment on posts.
Please keep Dazzle’s look. It is clean, professional and I can actually see it.
Two thumbs up LL!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:24 PM
@77 “Shouldn’t those people be working on fixing real issues?”
“The new UI appearance was developed in parallel with ongoing initiatives to improve Viewer stability and crash rates, and did not impact those important projects.”
ok?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:26 PM
OMG they are trying to scale the client again by removing mapping!!!!!!!!!!!!! More BS for not knowing how to buikd a client correctly…No we are not crying but stating a fact about how LL is contining to take away features we need and and give us things we don`t need and hate. nice job! And ytou wonder why people are upset and bitching as you say about current conidtions of the game……
April 9th, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I love me some dazzle!
give me more!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Big step backward in UI. Hate the color scheme. Fly button now missing from Movement control. Crashed within 2 min.
This is on the same level of mistake as “New Coke”.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:27 PM
@83 “OMG they are trying to scale the client again by removing mapping!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
yes another person that CAN’T READ THE ANSWERS. Try looking at #54
April 9th, 2008 at 7:29 PM
“Based on feedback from the Dazzle First Look viewer, we are tracking a number of bugs related to the new UI appearance; see PJira for the complete list. ”
this is funny because ther are people believing that its only color change and not real beta release. Oh how i l;ove how things are becoming once again confusing and not explaing to the generial public but this releases.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:29 PM
@85 “Fly button now missing from Movement control”
What’s wrong with the one on the button bar on the bottom?
“Crashed within 2 min.”
Been connected about an hour, TP’s all over the grid, building, rezzing.. solid as a rock.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:30 PM
I love you too…………NOT……………………gesh another smart *** atleast once in every blog………..:/
April 9th, 2008 at 7:34 PM
@45
I’ve created a jira for the subject:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6243
With respect, bridie, I don’t agree that something useful should be removed merely because some people don’t understand it. There are a great many of us who do understand how ti works, and use it on a regular basis.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I agree with Elite and Eddy. I now have to go through extra steps to use a feature that worked just fine. Put the friends drop down list back on the map. If you must, make it disabled by default but there was no reason to remove it.
Was it removed at the request of any resident? Was a bug filed?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:35 PM
#85. Its not on the Movement control, that’s why. Requires moving he mouse to the other end of the screen to fly and then back to use movement.
Before you could place controls where you want them. Now fly and controls to control flight are separate. That’s a step backwards.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Why did you remove the -settings switch in the shortcuts? I needed this for different alts to have custom settings, now I cannot do this??
April 9th, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Crashing continually with Dazzle… and everytime I click to teleport to surl from web page launches a new session. Light blue hurts my eyes…
April 9th, 2008 at 7:36 PM
“Ability to reference textures by filename
Support for non-powers-of-two textures ”
Can you give more details on what these two items actually refer to? Thanks
April 9th, 2008 at 7:36 PM
Is anyone at LL actually listening to the feedback we provide you?
Dazzle is one of the worst interface designs in an already impressive line of failures (never mind the technical issues introduced with each new client feature, the persistent problems across versions like memory leaks).
Dazzle might look good in Torley’s office, or in an SF setting, but use it in a jungle or tropical or forest setting… that interface and color choice is nothing but a way of destroying user-generated content.
Why are you wasting development resources on junk like that when there are serious client-issues that are long overdue?
Why do you keep upping the demands on user’s PCs, thus narrowing the base of potential and actual new users? Yes, develop for the PCs we’ll have in 5 years..but let us use the PCs we bought recently and that are already overpowered for most of what we use them for..except, of course, SL.
Get someone with experience in UI-design and usability into your development team! And listen to the feedback you ask for when it is given! (And no, in-world office hours are not the answer, and no, you don’t deal with user-feedback by telling the user why it’s her/his fault, or how they got it all wrong)
April 9th, 2008 at 7:37 PM
It has been mentioned, but I want to express it again: the new colors are awful. please think of an easy solution. until then this viewer is dead for me.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:37 PM
@95 or you move the movement controls over to be above the fly button?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:38 PM
@92 thats a good q………why? shakeshead on why things are done this was……….Not everyone wants features like this…..but ifa fewthe geeky people do itse done. Oh i love how fairness is these days….
April 9th, 2008 at 7:38 PM
“56 Djarum TIgerpaw Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 7:04 PM
HOW DO I TURN THIS WINDLIGHT OFFFFF?!?!?!? someone please tell me”
Turn off Atmospheric Shaders. Edit - Preferences - Graphics Options. Just how many times has this been mentioned now?
Also, what happened to the tools menu?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:39 PM
#99. But that is limiting and it wasnt before. I prefer movement and camera to the right. Now fly is separate and at the other end. Its a loss of functionality, not a gain.
Tts like 97 said, this is a total waste of a UI effort.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:40 PM
This new color scheme is horrible. When Screen is in soft color and the window menu bar also in dark color, this color scheme make it like a Fluorescent lamp on whole monitor screen. Distracting and destroying the comfortable user feeling. Is the designer even try to feel this. Or they want to remind use where is SL menu and control bar. Nonsense design on visual effect base SL.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:41 PM
The camera control is kind of buggy, when you hit up or left it keeps moving after you stopped pressing the button. walking is hard too the camera doesnt follow as smooth as before.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:41 PM
I really need -settings back, or some way to make it so I can have shortcuts for different alts so each one has customized settings. I can’t have all my alts running on ultra when I use -multiple… And it made it easier to log them in because I didn’t have to type in their login information every time.
Does anyone know anything about this now, please? It seems the Lindens removed some useful features.
Oh yeah, my main cannot log in without crashing half the time now. I almost -NEVER- crashed in 1.19 or before.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:42 PM
How is this optional? I log into the release candidate and I’m told that it’s required in order to continue and I get 2 options : continue or quit. Ok, at least the Lindens tell me I can use the regular viewer, I load that up and it tells me I’m required to download 1-19-1-4 to continue. But that’s the release candidate and when I install it and log in, I’m required to download this!! Dazzle hurts my eyes! yes, the buttons are great and the enhancements to the inventory would be nice… if the inventory background wasn’t blinding me! In the old viewer, I could have a chat log open, click anywhere else and the window would go transparent to allow me to see things behind it. not with Dazzle. the transparancy is nowhere near enough for that.
If aesthetics matter, Lindens, if the SL community is as important to you as you say, WHY DON’T YOU LISTEN TO US?!? Nearly half these posts complain that Dazzle hurts their eyes! And then you make it required! Are you going to wait for some future release to start causing epileptic fits and cause lawsuits to roll in to think “gee, maybe we should have listened to the residents…”
BOO to this update! The SL experience continues to get worse because the residents aren’t being treated like they matter! Please listen to us! Something I feel would help this:
1) Maybe reverse the color scheme. You have your brightest colors dominating the playing field. Put those as text colors and use the text color for your background.
2) Give us a feature to toggle back to the old UI if we don’t like this one. A simple menu option would be grand, rather than needing to get a XML program and photoshop our own UI.
3) Keep the button layout you give us with Dazzle… just tone down the colors. Yikes. Try looking at it like this. Get a mess of bright christmas tree lights and frame a window with them. Wait until nightfall. Turn on the lights and try looking through the window. Hurts? Can’t see too wel? That’s what it’s like looking at Dazzle now.
4) If you say an update is optional… make it optional. Seriously. Being stuck with this bites.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:43 PM
what no voice chat now !!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Oh, apparently reports say that you can’t save a color in your color palate since the 1.19 client
April 9th, 2008 at 7:45 PM
>> You can instead find a friend on the map by opening their profile and clicking on ‘Find on Map’.
Um, actually, no you can’t. God, I can’t remember when that last even worked, so I’ve just given up on it. So, I always have to use the Friends dropdown on Map.
If you have gotten the profile Find on Map button working again, then fine.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:46 PM
What is going on? I’ve crashed TWICE since this update. I never crash.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:47 PM
@24: If you look at the links, both the First Look and RC pages link to the same number; the version numbers for the Release Candidates must be a typo.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Anybody know how I can get Voice Chat back…. won’t allow in Preferences
April 9th, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Darn its cool but cant stop crashing and I never crash like this …not for many moons
April 9th, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I usually get really tired of people whining about forward change on these blogs, but um:
-Appearance isnt too bad, but a dark option is definitely needed.
-Blue/yellow highlights on selected linksets lag behind the viewer camera movements significantly = disconcerting.
-Text over text immediately underneath Object tab = glaring oversight.
-Viewer update isnt shown as mandatory until I try to start old viewer and get rejected, then restart old viewer = annoying oversight.
-So how do we ‘map’ friends now?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:50 PM
OSX Tiger and below on ppc doesn’t support non power of 2 textures so wouldn’t this up the minimum system requirements?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:52 PM
*Double-tap forward to run
REALLY bad idea. A lot of custom controls use that. (See and vote for bug VWR-6232). Don’t remove keys; add more instead!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:53 PM
oh please save it…….. people that need to say WHINING are real need to spend more time away from the internet and deal with RL. You spend way too much time on the internet….If you spent time in RL like work you would understand.have a nice day…………..
April 9th, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Theres a serious bug with this viewer and my Intel Mac. The view is messed up, controls dont work, my Avi and view jumps for no reason at all. If you said if you are on a Mac dont download, then why was I forced to use it. I couldnt llog on with 1.19.4. Where is the Patch for this??
April 9th, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Voice Chat Setup no longer works.
April 9th, 2008 at 8: