My point was people act like computer hardware is so awkwardly expensive that no one other then people that put all their money into it can do it. I’m well aware some people cant afford to upgrade their systems. And no I’m not saying everyone should go out and learn.

Your one of these people that act like its the hardest thing in the world. Really come on now you install a few wires, slide a few cards in slots and set up the bios all of which are in the manual. But alot of people complain that SL runs poorly but then their hardware is barely even sold or even manufactured anymore…

What im suggesting is rather then being a bunch of whiny people the end user actually try and see if the performance Loss may be something on their end. Games Progress…. Entropia Universe for instance is rewriting the entire game in CryEngine 2 and making it a big update even though its likely to alienate most of their user base. There are people out there that want progress to happen and there are people who dont.

I do think that LL should make sure Hardware skinning and avatar impostors are off by default because that is where some of these bugs like disfigured avatars , triangles on screen (this one can be caused by a high res though to…) etc…

Also Motnana have you looked at some complains about Windlight? Im simply saying some of them are overtly ridiculous and have nothing at all to do with tis functionality just the vanity of some people. Trying to run above the recommended settings will also probably result in a lapse in performance …..

I just think alot of people whine about something before they investigate it. You wont hear 50% of the user base complain really since most of them arnt involved in any SL web presence including this blog. Yes the client has some bugs but all software has some bugs. It also has some things that still need to be optimized and I’m sure the windlight team is working diligently on this stuff…

Keep in mind till a client hits widely like this it is harder to piinpoint what is a major bug or not since people are using diff clients etc. I’ll admit there are problems but this is the first main windlight release maybe give it a lil more time before going off on it and see if the stuff is fixed next update?

It’s like looking at the new 1.20 RC. They state it doesn’t work with Apple’s Mighty Mouse (there you go again for not following standard rules) which must pretty much be almost every Mac out there capable of running SL apart from laptops, and that the Tools Menu is not available. What? Why is such a dysfunctional viewer a RC? That should still be a beta. So why 1.20? What else are they shoving in to further degrade performance? Or is this an attempt to distance themselves from the disastrous 1.19 viewer?

Oh, and now Lina in her wisdom recommends everybody learns how to build their own PC just to keep up with a game. That really is going to spread and grow SL lots. LMFAO.

Will you please make an earlier viewer version (sans Windlight) available for download on the website?

I am running the new Viewer 1.19.1 (4) - and I cannot go back to a previous version because I didn’t download a 1.19.x version. I was very happy with the 1.18.53 viewer.

Machine 1- work laptop:
Different colored huge Triangles across the screen- this is horrid- I can’t see!
Slow and laggy, windows also freeze
Problems with prim attachments
Laptop Specs: 2Ghz machine, 2Gb ram, Windows XP, ATI Radeon 256 MB video card

Machine 2- home desktop
Slow and laggy in places that used to be fine, windows also freeze
Problems with prim attachments
Desktop Specs: 1.6Ghz machine, 1Gb ram, Windows 2000, nVidia geforce fx 5600 video card

I also miss the old moon rises/sunsets… the colors were gorgeous. I do not see these anymore. Why wouldn’t the sun and moon rises/sets be beautiful like they used to be? That is not an improvement.

How do I silence the new “tennis volley” grunts when my avatar lands? Why did you add something like that? Horrible.

Even worse: I just bought my first land before this happened, yet I am so unhappy with my experience on SL now with this new viewer, I may have to leave. Why should I pay tiers for something I cannot use?

Windlight should be a graphics option that we choose at login, or perhaps the graphics settings once in. It makes pretty water, that’s about it. So, it’s good for real estate sales pictures.

Again, the new Windlight viewer should be an option, not forced upon those of us who do not own, nor can afford a costly computer upgrade.

Will you please make an earlier viewer version (sans Windlight) available for download on the website?

I am in mourning for a great place named SL that I used to LOVE and ENJOY and that I brought new members to enjoy with me. PLEASE HELP ME love SL again.

As you lower the memory SL can allocate to itself you also lower performance capabilities that SL is gunna be able to use smoothly… This was the overall flaw in design of the OS i was talking about. This is true of Vista, OSX , and Linux distrobutions with Compiz Fusion. The reason i said its a flaw in the OS may be misunderstood… Its a poor design choice ot actually take what is rendered on the screen and force it to use 3d resources which use up more of your GPU’s VRAM….

Again i was trying to explain that you dont need the best computer in the world to Run SL. My computer is far from great… I have the equivalent of an Intel Pentium D 2.4 Ghz (Amd Sempron 2400+ at close to 1.7 ghz) and it along with a 6800 GS (which is prolly really cheap…) and 2 gigs of 400 mhz DDR ram run SL just fine. This is an inexpensive system and runs the stuff I normally use quite well.

In fact i once ran a game on Top of SL’s normal client and didnt realize i had till i had logged out of the other game. I noticed no real drop in performance… Im just noting that to note that you dont need a beast for SL.

Its not hard to do at all you jsut slide some things around etc….Its a shame performance dropped for some people but when the card is lower end (just above minimum specs) its bound to happen.

Everybody is always so quick to pounce on the linden’s anytime they dont like something. Even if the vast majority loved what they did the people that hate it would try and say the vast majority. They are bound to get mixed feed back and it helps them improve things but some of the complaints as to why windlight is bad are just ridiculous.

The whole lighting debate indoor vs outdoor is an entirely moot argument as i’ve said many times. Neither one has ever existed in SL. You’d be like full bright outside then non full bright inside or bake on shadows… The lighting model was bland and used techniques that are quite ordinary and just blah. The new model is more accurate but still suffers from its predecessor of not having proper shadows for indoors or outdoors this has always been a factor in SL in the almost 3 years I’ve been here.

The way people got around it was texturing. Now the sunlight breaks thru the buildings and yeah it can look ugly at times but, At the saime time if you hate it so much you can adjust it quite easily enough. Stated above a Low Sun/Moon color will pretty much make any sunlight color effects go Poof…Then just adjust the ambient lighting and some of the atmosphere and clouds and presto…

Its just people Dont want to have to do that at all. Thats all I’m seeing. No matter if they can fix it themselves or not they expect LL to hand it to them on a silver platter but that doesnt always work. If people arnt willing to learn then people can teach them but i think really people should go out and learn a little something about SL….

I’m like this because all i hear on here is whining day in and day out from people that really dont grasp the overall concept that this is adding in. Its more realistic. People are used to the old way and people naturally fear adapting to change and when change happens they scurry off and whine about it.

Maybe the linden’s do smile because maybe they actually feel good that someone out there gets the overall point? If everything were handed to us in a Silver Platter in SL this might as well just be the sims online. Again if you take some time to adjust stuff its actually quite easy!!