Comments on: Announcing changes to the Openspace product http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/ By Linden Lab Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:55:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Kyle Thorn http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-614958 Kyle Thorn Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:15:43 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-614958 It bothers me that people are so short-sighted as to what they want, now, that they fail to see the incredibly sane business cases for the fullsim requirement. They have given us lots of addons that are due to new technical capabilities -- virtual placement vs adjacent, more prims due to better server tech -- but the *business* requirements haven't changed. If you have more orders than you know how to process (huge demand), and those orders have an average level of support, then your average revenue stream per customer needs to pay for that level of support or quality erodes. Quality erodes, those same "gimme"-ers now say "you suck", the entire system collapses under its weight, people flee like rats, and the grid hemorrhages. Please, people. They did something nice. Stop attacking them for it and acting like seven year olds. "I WANT MY CANDY NOW" is not a way to endear yourself to anyone, nor is threatening to bite the hand if it doesn't feed you so much candy that you make yourself sick. It bothers me that people are so short-sighted as to what they want, now, that they fail to see the incredibly sane business cases for the fullsim requirement. They have given us lots of addons that are due to new technical capabilities — virtual placement vs adjacent, more prims due to better server tech — but the *business* requirements haven’t changed. If you have more orders than you know how to process (huge demand), and those orders have an average level of support, then your average revenue stream per customer needs to pay for that level of support or quality erodes. Quality erodes, those same “gimme”-ers now say “you suck”, the entire system collapses under its weight, people flee like rats, and the grid hemorrhages.

Please, people. They did something nice. Stop attacking them for it and acting like seven year olds. “I WANT MY CANDY NOW” is not a way to endear yourself to anyone, nor is threatening to bite the hand if it doesn’t feed you so much candy that you make yourself sick.

]]> By: Zaphod Kotobide http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-614210 Zaphod Kotobide Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:34:41 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-614210 Echoing Khamon and others.. You've now removed the requirement that openspace regions need be attached to full service regions. Why retain the requirement of owning a full service region? Supply challenges? Concerns of revenue dilution? This would be a perfect opportunity for those of us who either can't afford, or can't justify the cost of a full region to enter into island ownership. Echoing Khamon and others..

You’ve now removed the requirement that openspace regions need be attached to full service regions. Why retain the requirement of owning a full service region? Supply challenges? Concerns of revenue dilution?

This would be a perfect opportunity for those of us who either can’t afford, or can’t justify the cost of a full region to enter into island ownership.

]]> By: SL Virtual World Expands 44% - SLUniverse Forums http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-614126 SL Virtual World Expands 44% - SLUniverse Forums Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:14:58 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-614126 [...] 44.2% over Q1 to just over 1.5 billion square meters. Our growth was due to the popularity of our newly launched “Openspace” land product along with a change in pricing to make the purchase of land more accessible to first time buyers. [...] [...] 44.2% over Q1 to just over 1.5 billion square meters. Our growth was due to the popularity of our newly launched “Openspace” land product along with a change in pricing to make the purchase of land more accessible to first time buyers. [...]

]]> By: Second Life Virtual World Expands 44% in Q2 « Official Second Life Blog http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-614122 Second Life Virtual World Expands 44% in Q2 « Official Second Life Blog Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:35:37 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-614122 [...] 44.2% over Q1 to just over 1.5 billion square meters.  Our growth was due to the popularity of our newly launched “Openspace” land product along with a change in pricing to make the purchase of land more accessible to first time buyers. [...] [...] 44.2% over Q1 to just over 1.5 billion square meters.  Our growth was due to the popularity of our newly launched “Openspace” land product along with a change in pricing to make the purchase of land more accessible to first time buyers. [...]

]]> By: What is the monthly cost of an Openspace sim? - Page 2 - SLUniverse Forums http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-604850 What is the monthly cost of an Openspace sim? - Page 2 - SLUniverse Forums Wed, 07 May 2008 14:25:57 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-604850 [...] 1000USD to buy it will be 500.. Its a rumour but pretty interesting to wait for perhaps.. [EDIT] Announcing changes to the Openspace product « Official Second Life Blog Official info about openspace sim's ATM. __________________ Rastafariah stand's [...] [...] 1000USD to buy it will be 500.. Its a rumour but pretty interesting to wait for perhaps.. [EDIT] Announcing changes to the Openspace product « Official Second Life Blog Official info about openspace sim’s ATM. __________________ Rastafariah stand’s [...]

]]> By: MariaBeatriz Beck http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-603059 MariaBeatriz Beck Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:12:41 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-603059 I would like to know, please, if anyone that has an Openspace SIM had any feedback on performance. I am planning to share a Openspace SIM with 3 friends, and I understand that we need also to be worried about the other 3 Openspace SIMs that are running on the same CPU as we do not have control over the other owners. I understood by the previous replies: Server (Hardware) : 4 CPUS 4 Openspace SIM runs on one single CPU Thanks, I would like to know, please, if anyone that has an Openspace SIM had any feedback on performance.

I am planning to share a Openspace SIM with 3 friends, and I understand that we need also to be worried about the other 3 Openspace SIMs that are running on the same CPU as we do not have control over the other owners.

I understood by the previous replies:

Server (Hardware) : 4 CPUS
4 Openspace SIM runs on one single CPU

Thanks,

]]> By: Phidian http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-592912 Phidian Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:05:36 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-592912 This is great for a feeling of open areas like it was intended but I have already seen the consequences of what many folks are doing in these sims, packing them full, selling/renting like normal sims but with less prim totals. Script lag is horrendous, and many renters dont understand why there scripted items are running poorly. Some dont even know what "normal" feels like with scripts. Ive seen this effect first hand on what appears to be a nicely spread out estate on an open space sim. The effects of either loading from 1 or more of the "other 3" sims, or "time slicing", I dont know which, was bogging that sim WAY down for a running scripts. You couldnt tell walking around as the load was clearly affecting only scripts. REMEMBER... this is supposed to be for open space and asthetics... not loading them up with renters, malls, etc... Even if the prim count is reduced people will still load up on scripted itmes. -Phid This is great for a feeling of open areas like it was intended but I have already seen the consequences of what many folks are doing in these sims, packing them full, selling/renting like normal sims but with less prim totals.

Script lag is horrendous, and many renters dont understand why there scripted items are running poorly. Some dont even know what “normal” feels like with scripts.

Ive seen this effect first hand on what appears to be a nicely spread out estate on an open space sim. The effects of either loading from 1 or more of the “other 3″ sims, or “time slicing”, I dont know which, was bogging that sim WAY down for a running scripts. You couldnt tell walking around as the load was clearly affecting only scripts.

REMEMBER… this is supposed to be for open space and asthetics… not loading them up with renters, malls, etc… Even if the prim count is reduced people will still load up on scripted itmes.

-Phid

]]> By: brother nadezda http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-592876 brother nadezda Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:44:36 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-592876 ...good news...but excuse me for missing this, but did LL respond to these questions? and if so where are the responses posted?? …good news…but excuse me for missing this, but did LL respond to these questions? and if so where are the responses posted??

]]> By: Casandra Zolnir http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-591142 Casandra Zolnir Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:28:38 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-591142 This is awsome news. thank you very much. good work Lindens. this is good news. This is awsome news. thank you very much. good work Lindens. this is good news.

]]> By: My Openspace - SLUniverse Forums http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/03/07/announcing-changes-to-the-openspace-product/#comment-590717 My Openspace - SLUniverse Forums Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:16:36 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1712#comment-590717 [...] or at least know an estate owner who would do it for you and lease it to you at cost. ------------ Announcing changes to the Openspace product « Official Second Life Blog What is an Openspace? An Openspace is a type of private island intended for light use countryside [...] [...] or at least know an estate owner who would do it for you and lease it to you at cost. ———— Announcing changes to the Openspace product « Official Second Life Blog What is an Openspace? An Openspace is a type of private island intended for light use countryside [...]

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