Comments on: Mainland and the Ad Farm Problem http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/ By Linden Lab Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:03:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: The Grid Live » Linden Labs Tackles Ad Farm Problem http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585409 The Grid Live » Linden Labs Tackles Ad Farm Problem Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:09:07 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585409 [...] Using content, particularly advertising, to deliberately and negatively affect another resident’s view so as to sell a parcel for an unreasonable price, will be deemed unacceptable and dealt with as a violation of our community standards. Source: Mainland and the Ad Farm Problem [...] [...] Using content, particularly advertising, to deliberately and negatively affect another resident’s view so as to sell a parcel for an unreasonable price, will be deemed unacceptable and dealt with as a violation of our community standards. Source: Mainland and the Ad Farm Problem [...]

]]> By: U M http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585407 U M Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:05:19 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585407 Too many times I seen LL say y " well are going to do.BLA BLA" and they turn around and do the opposite!. Thats why seeing is believe. LEts hope so! Too many times I seen LL say y ” well are going to do.BLA BLA” and they turn around and do the opposite!. Thats why seeing is believe. LEts hope so!

]]> By: U M http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585403 U M Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:03:26 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585403 I believe people know what topic is about. Now its up to LL to take the ball and run with it as they say. Words are good but actions are far more real I believe people know what topic is about. Now its up to LL to take the ball and run with it as they say. Words are good but actions are far more real

]]> By: nina http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585400 nina Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:00:18 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585400 i think we are talking about adfarms here. crapping on about 'ugly builds' is outside the scope of this announcement. adfarms, usnderstand? adfarms. if you are not ware of what an adfarm is i am sure somebody would be willing to give you a tp. i think we are talking about adfarms here.
crapping on about ‘ugly builds’ is outside the scope of this announcement.
adfarms, usnderstand?
adfarms.
if you are not ware of what an adfarm is i am sure somebody would be willing to give you a tp.

]]> By: Tsu Goodliffe http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585399 Tsu Goodliffe Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:59:44 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585399 #144 I have to agree and disagree, There are cases where the ad farming surrounds a person who owns a land by continuously buying small parcels and putting spinning rotating box's with links to URL and saying for sell on them all around the persons land, Forcing them to buy the plots for out outrageous prices for a 16SQm, and the land owner himself will sit on the 16meter slot and fire a assault rifle at the other land owner saying its my land and I can do as I please, what he/she doesn't realize the moment he assaults another resident on a no combat sim is a volition. But the point is, It is our World, We should protect it, Not make it a burden to the eyes, Having for sell signs is ok, just do it properly., Don't surround a Neighbor with it with every little plot you have. thats just rude, if you want to put a for sell sign make it like a square or something, People can Read, and a floating sign only drives the attention away, I'm more interested in buying a plot that has a square box on the ground, that shows signs of respect for others, Lets see here/heres a good example, I live next to your house IRL, I Start Putting for sell signs Right at the borderline of our house and your house, (But still on my land) All over, You look out your window and all you see is these signs, You would probably come knocking on my door. I think Linden lab is at rights here for a change. Good job Lindens I acknowledge this issue fully, it is driving out the good community and bringing in unfair business's #144 I have to agree and disagree, There are cases where the ad farming surrounds a person who owns a land by continuously buying small parcels and putting spinning rotating box’s with links to URL and saying for sell on them all around the persons land, Forcing them to buy the plots for out outrageous prices for a 16SQm, and the land owner himself will sit on the 16meter slot and fire a assault rifle at the other land owner saying its my land and I can do as I please, what he/she doesn’t realize the moment he assaults another resident on a no combat sim is a volition. But the point is, It is our World, We should protect it, Not make it a burden to the eyes, Having for sell signs is ok, just do it properly., Don’t surround a Neighbor with it with every little plot you have. thats just rude, if you want to put a for sell sign make it like a square or something, People can Read, and a floating sign only drives the attention away, I’m more interested in buying a plot that has a square box on the ground, that shows signs of respect for others, Lets see here/heres a good example, I live next to your house IRL, I Start Putting for sell signs Right at the borderline of our house and your house, (But still on my land) All over, You look out your window and all you see is these signs, You would probably come knocking on my door. I think Linden lab is at rights here for a change. Good job Lindens I acknowledge this issue fully, it is driving out the good community and bringing in unfair business’s

]]> By: waterstar eilde http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585398 waterstar eilde Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:57:07 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585398 Bravo Lindens - you listened AND you acted! I'm sure by far the majority of residents will applaud you for this. Bravo Lindens - you listened AND you acted! I’m sure by far the majority of residents will applaud you for this.

]]> By: Temporal Mitra http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585394 Temporal Mitra Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:42:06 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585394 Another couple of questions I have to ask Linden Labs...since other residents "view" happens to be over MY land...land I pay the tier on...will those that now have the right to demand that I only have objects on my land that is visually appealing to them, will they be paying a portion of my tier now? Since your new policy now will allow anyone (and I do mean ANYONE...since your new policy does not state that the abuse reporter has to be an adjoining land owner) to file an abuse report against anyone else on the grid if they see something that the filer considers an "annoyance", it would seem to me that ANY other resident can now file an abuse report against any other resident for what content they have on their land, as long as the land is for sale. Does this include "for sale" signs? Can I demand they lower the price of a parcel I want to buy, because it has a for sale sign on it, and I find that annoying? Or do they just need to remove their for sale sign?... Also...there have been groups that have put up ad blockers around billboards...now, according to your policy, these ad blockers, despite being on a surrounding parcel, can now be considered an annoyance, because it is ruining the view of the owner of the 16m billboard owner...so will all of those be abuse reportable? How soon will you be removing all of the ad blockers? Don't get me wrong...i dont run an advertising network at all...all of my parcels had them removed months ago...my main focus here is that this new policy arbitrarily removes land owner rights...giving any random resident the right to determine what any other resident creates on land he or she is paying the tier on...and now it seems residents no longer have the right to use "your imagination" to create...they are now limited by the asthetic values of anyone that happens to see it... You really need to define what "annoying content" is...because I have seen some pretty annoying houses...and you need to define what an "unreasonable price" is...which you won't be able to do...because that is entirely subjective...and as I said before...the major loophole in your new policy is...The policy only affects land that is listed for sale, if the land is not for sale...they can have any annoying thing they want on it...(according to the policy as written)...the billboard owners will just not put their parcels up for sale...which means that adjacent landowners will no longer have the option to buy them at any price...reasonable or not... Another couple of questions I have to ask Linden Labs…since other residents “view” happens to be over MY land…land I pay the tier on…will those that now have the right to demand that I only have objects on my land that is visually appealing to them, will they be paying a portion of my tier now?

Since your new policy now will allow anyone (and I do mean ANYONE…since your new policy does not state that the abuse reporter has to be an adjoining land owner) to file an abuse report against anyone else on the grid if they see something that the filer considers an “annoyance”, it would seem to me that ANY other resident can now file an abuse report against any other resident for what content they have on their land, as long as the land is for sale. Does this include “for sale” signs? Can I demand they lower the price of a parcel I want to buy, because it has a for sale sign on it, and I find that annoying? Or do they just need to remove their for sale sign?…

Also…there have been groups that have put up ad blockers around billboards…now, according to your policy, these ad blockers, despite being on a surrounding parcel, can now be considered an annoyance, because it is ruining the view of the owner of the 16m billboard owner…so will all of those be abuse reportable? How soon will you be removing all of the ad blockers?

Don’t get me wrong…i dont run an advertising network at all…all of my parcels had them removed months ago…my main focus here is that this new policy arbitrarily removes land owner rights…giving any random resident the right to determine what any other resident creates on land he or she is paying the tier on…and now it seems residents no longer have the right to use “your imagination” to create…they are now limited by the asthetic values of anyone that happens to see it…

You really need to define what “annoying content” is…because I have seen some pretty annoying houses…and you need to define what an “unreasonable price” is…which you won’t be able to do…because that is entirely subjective…and as I said before…the major loophole in your new policy is…The policy only affects land that is listed for sale, if the land is not for sale…they can have any annoying thing they want on it…(according to the policy as written)…the billboard owners will just not put their parcels up for sale…which means that adjacent landowners will no longer have the option to buy them at any price…reasonable or not…

]]> By: kenny Stringer http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585391 kenny Stringer Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:36:24 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585391 Tack A bow Linden labs God bless you :) Tack A bow Linden labs God bless you :)

]]> By: Tamasin Demina http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585390 Tamasin Demina Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:34:57 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585390 I really did mean a ban on selling unless they are being joined to something useful. I really did mean a ban on selling unless they are being joined to something useful.

]]> By: Gumby Roffo http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/02/13/mainland-and-the-ad-farm-problem/#comment-585388 Gumby Roffo Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:30:29 +0000 http://lindenlab.wordpress.com/?p=1645#comment-585388 TY, TY , TY best news I hae heard all year... I look forward to reading the Avastars views on this over the weekend. TY, TY , TY best news I hae heard all year… I look forward to reading the Avastars views on this over the weekend.

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