Excellent post. Keep it up!

I’m fully aware of the fees for both areas, but I’m talking about selling off mainland sims in pacels and the buyers paying Linden Labs the tier fees, not the sim owner. So how is that an advantage to the sucker who tries to buy a lot, or flip it, when the one flipping it is paying more than the intrinsic value at auction and doing nothign but raising the price for the buyer, who comes back here and complains about ad farms becaus ehe doesn’t own the entire sim?

If I did this to make money I would be flipping mainland to suckers. I stated all the advantages of private islands, but thats also not the point. The mainland is probably an advantage if you want to put up a nude bar, other than that, good luck. If I missed one, please tell me.

The point on the other hand, is that Linden Labs either tried to recycle already sold and abandoned servers due to the VAT, or something else, artificially inflated the price of them at auction, or worse yet, added new servers to the network and in the process crashed the economy of SL, aside from the people who profited by taking part in that travesty.

Another crock of steaming discharge is that rumor floating around that private land owners are scewing people out of land, which Linden Labs used as a ploy to drive the lion’s share of the new market back to them. What actually started that was an instance where Azure Islands rented entire sims, someone came along, paid one month tier, sold the land to someone who didn’t check to see owned it, then left with a few thousand profit. Azure Islands made good on the deal, taking responsibility for their lack of forsight, and allowed the residents to stay. Before the situation was resolved, word got out and started a wild fire in the old rumor mill, which is still circulating today. The ones perpetuating it are Linden Labs and probably some wirthless saps who tried to screw their sim owners out of tier payments and got kicked.

No offense meant, but if you’re going to address my posts, please adress my posts, not something that has nothing to do with them.

I’m not worried about the information that I revealed here being public, obviously there are other details that I have left out about my specific business plan. What I have revealed is pretty much what someone with average intelligence should be able to figure out from the available documentation.

The reason I did this is because this situation is affecting my SL experience by hampering it, not by causing me losses. I feel it was fouled up in the begining by LL’s who is now scrambling to recycle the sims they let loose the first time with total disregard for controlled expansion. Now they’re doing it again.

We have been victims of these atrocities and artificially inflated metrics due to multiple accounts being allowed without limits and nothing more than a simple question standing between you and 100 alts. “Is this your first character on SL?”, “NO” Bingo, new account! As I told Jack Linden, the only numbers that count are the amount of players online, which could still be cut in half thanks to God knows how many people are running 20 campers from their servers at work in network positions or offices, people running 5 on one Mac, or a few more on IBM’s in a home network. Every camper you see is a phony number in the metrics and a lie. That is nothing less than falsified information and I personally can not see a jury in any court, nor judge, who would disagree, regardless of the defense. I would add to that that due to the nature of LL’s business, laws could be easily changed to cause SL to be considered a publically held corporation, since its is the users sinking money in to it and holding interest in the form of land purchases and goods, or created objects.

Careful not to tick me off too much, I might squash you like a bug. That is not arrogance, its fact.

Luna, I don’t personally like your business plan, but it works for you. What I would be careful of is posting your methods in public. If they can’t figure it out themselves, you end up with a situation like when Rockafeller walked in to a meeting and -to the surprise of everyone in attendance- exclaimed he was pulling all assets out of the market. When asked why he stated he had gotten a shoe shine on the way in and the shoe shine boy asked for a stock tip. When shoe shine boys start asking for stock tips, its time to pull out, and he was right; it was an over exhuberant market. That was just before Black Monday whih started the depreassion of the 1930’s in the US. The smart money got out and took Shoeshine boy’s money back in to hands that could manage it properly.

You stated a fair price for land in your first post Luna, however Melanie and LL’s claim differently, so lets challange that:

First of all auctions are sucker bait designed to incite bidding wars and drive up prices. We know that LL’s offers private sims for $1675 USD, and we know that the exchange rate is somewhere around $266L per 1 USD. We also know what a sim contain 65,536 sqm. So (1675/266) / 65,536 = 6.7. $6.7 psqm is the intrinsic value of the land, as set by LL’s. Anything more is at a premium.

Buy at auction, you’re paying more than the intrinsic value, live on the mainland and you’re living in anarchy with no planning, zoning, agreements, or arbitrator. Buy on private estates, you have protection and premium, zoned land. Personally, I could care less where the masses live; its what slums are for, but when it starts to halt a perfectly good economy and LL’s makes the same mistake again, by allowing people to bakrupt themselves, it puts pressure on everyone and gives SL a bad name.

To the only two dolts who disagreed with me on these posts; you can disagree all you want, but you have no argument to present and facts do not change. Numbers do not lie. That only happens in your little tiny world.

Slippery, I did buy regions from LL at auction, but not for 3000, anyone who paid that much paid way too much for their region.

A land merchant obviously shouldn’t plan on keeping a particular parcel for a whole month. That isn’t my business plan. Anyone should be able to see from your numbers what the result of that would be. In case I have to spell it out for you, if you start a month with one region, sell some portion of it on the first day of the month, and then buy that same amount of land from some seller, you are not taking on any additional tier. Then the next day, you will probably sell a similar portion of your holdings, and buy some more land. You can buy and sell several regions worth of land over the course of a month and still pay just $195 for the month.

But it is a lot of work. People expect to get into this business and not have to do any work, and wind up losing a bunch of money.

The “natural”, or equilibrium price, of land is L$10

If it is cheaper, you have a glut, and not only flippers lose money. If it is more expensive, no one buys.

Glutting the market to get land to L$5 is not helping anyone. All that will do is to make adfarming so much more lucrative, since adfarms are not oriented on real value, but on extortion. You pay them for the land so you can send back the adcubes!

The lower the price of land, the more adfarms will be cut. The less attractive it becomes to buy land.

Just let the land price settle at L$10 or thereabouts, and keep it there, but don’t throw out any more land!