Comments on: Knowledge Base Article of the Week #12: Abandoned Land http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/ By Linden Lab Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:20:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Raymond Figtree http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580701 Raymond Figtree Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:37:14 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580701 IMO: You should never abandon land. It's the same as throwing money away. Simply set your land for less than .1 per meter below the lowest listing on the For Sale Mainland page. For example, if the first listing is selling for L$8.6, set yours for L$8.5 a meter. It will sell in minutes. If you need to unload it instantly, set it for .2 or .3 per meter lower than the first listing. Sort by 512 meters or greater as well to get the right price for your land if it is 512 or larger. IMO: You should never abandon land. It’s the same as throwing money away.

Simply set your land for less than .1 per meter below the lowest listing on the For Sale Mainland page. For example, if the first listing is selling for L$8.6, set yours for L$8.5 a meter. It will sell in minutes. If you need to unload it instantly, set it for .2 or .3 per meter lower than the first listing. Sort by 512 meters or greater as well to get the right price for your land if it is 512 or larger.

]]> By: U M http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580651 U M Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:23:04 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580651 "4 Jeremy Linden Says: January 17th, 2008 at 9:01 AM PST @U M While unpleasant, the fact that someone took the time to litter their own land indicates that the land is not abandoned. However, if you feel that the landowner has violated the Terms of Service or Community Standards with his litter, you should file an Abuse Report and our support team will investigate." Thank you For taking time to read my blog remark, problem is I have sent in many abuse reportrs but i did not get any really but well working on it. thats 3 months ago. I filed tickets about this and i have nothing new to report back. Is there anything that can be done? “4 Jeremy Linden Says:

January 17th, 2008 at 9:01 AM PST
@U M

While unpleasant, the fact that someone took the time to litter their own land indicates that the land is not abandoned. However, if you feel that the landowner has violated the Terms of Service or Community Standards with his litter, you should file an Abuse Report and our support team will investigate.”

Thank you For taking time to read my blog remark, problem is I have sent in many abuse reportrs but i did not get any really but well working on it. thats 3 months ago. I filed tickets about this and i have nothing new to report back. Is there anything that can be done?

]]> By: U M http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580650 U M Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:19:54 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580650 Strange $1sq meter are being bought up by the Linden Bots.OOps i mean the land bots............ :/ Strange $1sq meter are being bought up by the Linden Bots.OOps i mean the land bots………… :/

]]> By: Digital Digital http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580349 Digital Digital Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:59:14 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580349 Excellent information! Thank You :D :D Excellent information! Thank You :D :D

]]> By: Martin Magpie http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580247 Martin Magpie Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:42:44 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580247 @34 "3- Several Linden staff have been setting abandoned land for sale at $1.0 per sq meter, which is EXCLUSIVELY purchased by landbots." Absolutely correct and might I add POINTLESS on the behalf of Linden Lab to do so! What does a grid and a shepherd have in common? @34 “3- Several Linden staff have been setting abandoned land for sale at $1.0 per sq meter, which is EXCLUSIVELY purchased by landbots.”

Absolutely correct and might I add POINTLESS on the behalf of Linden Lab to do so!

What does a grid and a shepherd have in common?

]]> By: Brizone Habilis http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580185 Brizone Habilis Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:31:12 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580185 After reading all these comments, I can't imagine ever wanting to buy land in SL. I think I'll sit back and wait to see if the environment ever stabilizes. Lol! Feels just like AOL was in the early 1990s, right at the beginning. The early adopters all left, because they treated their customers so badly. We all signed up with their new competitors. That day will dawn for the Lindens too, if they fail to take care of the basics. Count on it. After reading all these comments, I can’t imagine ever wanting to buy land in SL. I think I’ll sit back and wait to see if the environment ever stabilizes. Lol!

Feels just like AOL was in the early 1990s, right at the beginning. The early adopters all left, because they treated their customers so badly. We all signed up with their new competitors.

That day will dawn for the Lindens too, if they fail to take care of the basics. Count on it.

]]> By: Tegg B http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580155 Tegg B Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:20:45 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580155 SL Toll Says: Why in the world would anybody want to abandon land? Possibly to show how 100% pissed off with SL they are when leaving. And setting small plots for sale at less than market price, is pretty much the same as employees recieving kickbacks from the landbots & adfarmers to sell direct to them only. SL Toll Says: Why in the world would anybody want to abandon land?

Possibly to show how 100% pissed off with SL they are when leaving.
And setting small plots for sale at less than market price, is pretty much the same as employees recieving kickbacks from the landbots & adfarmers to sell direct to them only.

]]> By: Tegg B http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580152 Tegg B Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:15:44 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580152 Hazno Bazno Says: You know… My experience has been that autoreturn should be set to 1 minute as a flat out default. I own a lot of land and it p*sses me off big time every time I divide my land every parcel resets to autoreturn of zero. I have to go in on every parcel and reset that or else I suffer the possibility of being griefed. 1minute autoreturn default would suck, I can just imagine dividing parcels making a nametag building booboo and having everything on the group land returned to me by accident. If you ever had a 68 storey condo returned to you in 300 pieces by enabling autoreturn you would know what I mean. Hazno Bazno Says: You know… My experience has been that autoreturn should be set to 1 minute as a flat out default. I own a lot of land and it p*sses me off big time every time I divide my land every parcel resets to autoreturn of zero. I have to go in on every parcel and reset that or else I suffer the possibility of being griefed.
1minute autoreturn default would suck, I can just imagine dividing parcels making a nametag building booboo and having everything on the group land returned to me by accident. If you ever had a 68 storey condo returned to you in 300 pieces by enabling autoreturn you would know what I mean.

]]> By: Klaatu Congrejo http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580151 Klaatu Congrejo Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:12:50 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580151 I agree with Two Cents above. There really does need to be a Linden who's sole job is to check out these 'abandoned' or 'long-unused' lands. Should there be a time limit before land is considered abandoned? Maybe. But as one of the other comments above says, how do you know whether or not the landowner has died if s/he hasn't logged on for 5 years! Perhaps after, say, 12 months LL should send an email to the landowner asking if they want to keep the land or has it been abandoned? As for 16m plots, let me tell you my story - I had one right next to one of my lands recently and it was owned by Gov.Linden! It had 3 huge trees on it (the 3-prim limit for that size land) with wide branches that covered about a third of my 1024 block. I sent several IM's asking for the trees to be removed - but no response. In desperation I contacted Concierge support who suggested I file a 'land encroachment grief report'. They also suggested I would probably be entitled to buy the adjoining land from LL. I did as suggested, and the trees were removed. But my request to buy the adjoining 16m block (because I didn't want it to end up with an adfarmer) was rejected on the basis that I need to have '3 common land borders' with the land. That 16m block eventually ended up with an adfarmer who planted a huge neon rotating adcube on it! So I decided to sell my 1024m land very cheaply. I recently inspected my old 1024m land and it has now been cut up into lots of 16m blocks for sale to adfarmers! It makes ya wanna weep with the frustration of it all!! I agree with Two Cents above. There really does need to be a Linden who’s sole job is to check out these ‘abandoned’ or ‘long-unused’ lands. Should there be a time limit before land is considered abandoned? Maybe. But as one of the other comments above says, how do you know whether or not the landowner has died if s/he hasn’t logged on for 5 years! Perhaps after, say, 12 months LL should send an email to the landowner asking if they want to keep the land or has it been abandoned?
As for 16m plots, let me tell you my story - I had one right next to one of my lands recently and it was owned by Gov.Linden! It had 3 huge trees on it (the 3-prim limit for that size land) with wide branches that covered about a third of my 1024 block. I sent several IM’s asking for the trees to be removed - but no response.
In desperation I contacted Concierge support who suggested I file a ‘land encroachment grief report’. They also suggested I would probably be entitled to buy the adjoining land from LL.
I did as suggested, and the trees were removed. But my request to buy the adjoining 16m block (because I didn’t want it to end up with an adfarmer) was rejected on the basis that I need to have ‘3 common land borders’ with the land.
That 16m block eventually ended up with an adfarmer who planted a huge neon rotating adcube on it! So I decided to sell my 1024m land very cheaply.
I recently inspected my old 1024m land and it has now been cut up into lots of 16m blocks for sale to adfarmers!
It makes ya wanna weep with the frustration of it all!!

]]> By: The Grid Live » Second Life News for January 18, 2008 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580121 The Grid Live » Second Life News for January 18, 2008 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:07:01 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/17/knowledge-base-article-of-the-week-12-abandoned-land/#comment-580121 [...] Second Life Blog Knowledge Base Article of the Week #12: Abandoned Land Quote from the site - Hello everybody! In this week’s article, we’ll explore the mysteries [...] [...] Second Life Blog Knowledge Base Article of the Week #12: Abandoned Land Quote from the site - Hello everybody! In this week’s article, we’ll explore the mysteries [...]

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