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	<title>Comments on: Updated 1.18.6 Release Candidate Viewer: Second Life 1.18.6 RC4 Available Today</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: aidypost</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-586617</link>
		<dc:creator>aidypost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi will this sort the vista problem with NIV graphic card restarting my pc when using the game 

help please :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi will this sort the vista problem with NIV graphic card restarting my pc when using the game </p>
<p>help please <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: New Release Candidate Viewer: 1.19.0 RC0 Available &#171; Official Linden Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-583167</link>
		<dc:creator>New Release Candidate Viewer: 1.19.0 RC0 Available &#171; Official Linden Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some functionality that was previewed in our 1.18.6 RC viewer series. As mentioned in our final 1.18.6 RC post, we reverted back to the same XUI-based login code used in Second Life Viewer Release 1.18.5.3. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some functionality that was previewed in our 1.18.6 RC viewer series. As mentioned in our final 1.18.6 RC post, we reverted back to the same XUI-based login code used in Second Life Viewer Release 1.18.5.3. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Garth FairChang</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580587</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth FairChang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24. I find with normal SL client I get 20 FPS. With WindLight and Basic Shaders unchecked in graphic prefs.. I get 34 FPS. No pretty water or sky.. but much better performance. So I use WindLight because of the speed increase.

And when I want to take snaps and have pretty.. I check Basic Shaders and the 2 below it. Get 14 FPS but a better view :)

(Nvidia Go 7400 128mb on a Sony Vaio laptop)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24. I find with normal SL client I get 20 FPS. With WindLight and Basic Shaders unchecked in graphic prefs.. I get 34 FPS. No pretty water or sky.. but much better performance. So I use WindLight because of the speed increase.</p>
<p>And when I want to take snaps and have pretty.. I check Basic Shaders and the 2 below it. Get 14 FPS but a better view <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(Nvidia Go 7400 128mb on a Sony Vaio laptop)</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Milland</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580566</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Milland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use the Nicholaz viewer, there you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use the Nicholaz viewer, there you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Green</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580563</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would really like you people make it possible to adjust the size of the chat boxes to a smaller size</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would really like you people make it possible to adjust the size of the chat boxes to a smaller size</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Milland</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580560</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Milland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I don’t care for “i d i o t  l i g h t s” either. I have never seen the “Lag Meter” they added, because I use the Nicholaz patches, which remove it in favor of the old bars, they also remove the search box no one wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I don’t care for “i d i o t  l i g h t s” either. I have never seen the “Lag Meter” they added, because I use the Nicholaz patches, which remove it in favor of the old bars, they also remove the search box no one wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Milland</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580558</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Milland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I don’t care for “idiot-lights” either. I have never seen the “Lag Meter” they added, because I use the Nicholaz patches, which remove it in favor of the old bars, they also remove the search box no one wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I don’t care for “idiot-lights” either. I have never seen the “Lag Meter” they added, because I use the Nicholaz patches, which remove it in favor of the old bars, they also remove the search box no one wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Melchoir Tokhes</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580540</link>
		<dc:creator>Melchoir Tokhes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59
I assume by "lag meter" you mean the network bars, not the crappy dumb light lag meters they have.

Personally, I don't like dumb lights.  In my car, I'd rather have an oil pressure gage than a dumb light.  I'd like to know what the oil pressure IS, then decide if it's enough, not sit in the dark and have someone else decide what "enough" is for me.  If you want to make a suggestion to the oil pressure, but a little hash mark on the dash.

The problem they're making is that they are trying to apply classical conventional marketing to an unconventional market.  SL is not, and will not ever be, the "central market".  The central market is far too stupid to use SL, and dumbing down the controls to attract more people isn't going to have the desired effect, and it's going to drive away the people that are already here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59<br />
I assume by &#8220;lag meter&#8221; you mean the network bars, not the crappy dumb light lag meters they have.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t like dumb lights.  In my car, I&#8217;d rather have an oil pressure gage than a dumb light.  I&#8217;d like to know what the oil pressure IS, then decide if it&#8217;s enough, not sit in the dark and have someone else decide what &#8220;enough&#8221; is for me.  If you want to make a suggestion to the oil pressure, but a little hash mark on the dash.</p>
<p>The problem they&#8217;re making is that they are trying to apply classical conventional marketing to an unconventional market.  SL is not, and will not ever be, the &#8220;central market&#8221;.  The central market is far too stupid to use SL, and dumbing down the controls to attract more people isn&#8217;t going to have the desired effect, and it&#8217;s going to drive away the people that are already here.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Milland</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580537</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Milland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot understand why LL is unable to admit they have made a mistake in almost everything they decide.

People want the little network meters, people don;t want the search box. It would have been so easy to add a preference "Show Network Meters" and "Show Quick Search", so people can decide.

Just like LL is consistently ignoring the excellent Nicholaz updates, they are not applying the numerous performance and memory leak fixes, or his excellen UI, which allows people who like the Chatterbox UI to coexist with people who like the Old School UI, either with voice controls or without.

Going back to the old login UI is a good thing, and the "new" one should be relegated to the place in history it deserves, as a failed experiment.

People do not want constant change, and feature removal! Please listen to the people, make things optional, preferences, debug menu entries - but don;t rip them out.
It's so obvious - lag is bad, so to keeppeople from being reminded of it constantly, you rip out the meters that show it, rather than fixing the lag!

Those meters are often the only way to avert a crash. When I see the left (lag) meter spike, then go flat, I know I'm about to redmap. Sometimes, pushing and holding a movement key until the avatar actually moves can save the session, save me from relogging and losing all my IM connection, etc.

Taking those away is not a good idea, thank god for patches that put them back!
Just like the new login - it never worked well enough! Do your web stuff internally, but keep the UI as XUI!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot understand why LL is unable to admit they have made a mistake in almost everything they decide.</p>
<p>People want the little network meters, people don;t want the search box. It would have been so easy to add a preference &#8220;Show Network Meters&#8221; and &#8220;Show Quick Search&#8221;, so people can decide.</p>
<p>Just like LL is consistently ignoring the excellent Nicholaz updates, they are not applying the numerous performance and memory leak fixes, or his excellen UI, which allows people who like the Chatterbox UI to coexist with people who like the Old School UI, either with voice controls or without.</p>
<p>Going back to the old login UI is a good thing, and the &#8220;new&#8221; one should be relegated to the place in history it deserves, as a failed experiment.</p>
<p>People do not want constant change, and feature removal! Please listen to the people, make things optional, preferences, debug menu entries - but don;t rip them out.<br />
It&#8217;s so obvious - lag is bad, so to keeppeople from being reminded of it constantly, you rip out the meters that show it, rather than fixing the lag!</p>
<p>Those meters are often the only way to avert a crash. When I see the left (lag) meter spike, then go flat, I know I&#8217;m about to redmap. Sometimes, pushing and holding a movement key until the avatar actually moves can save the session, save me from relogging and losing all my IM connection, etc.</p>
<p>Taking those away is not a good idea, thank god for patches that put them back!<br />
Just like the new login - it never worked well enough! Do your web stuff internally, but keep the UI as XUI!</p>
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		<title>By: Jayme Llewellyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/01/15/updated-1186-release-candidate-viewer-second-life-1186-rc4-available-today/#comment-580401</link>
		<dc:creator>Jayme Llewellyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta agree with Nad and Melchior .... it's okay to for Linden to fix the small things, to update this, that and the other .. but it's all meaningless while the essential problems (lag, freeze and crash) are all grid and drive engine issues. It's fairly obvious to anyone with half a computer-orientated brain - even a relative techno-phobe like myself - that these major issues which plague the entire game would all be solved if Linden would simply fix the main grid and upgrade the central game drive-engine. Updating stuff like Windlight Viewer maybe nice, but when you are crashing on a regular basis (every 20 to 30 minutes like clockwork) with the latest version of Windlight ... it's obvious that the problem isn't with Windlight but with the main grid and the central drive engine. Please, if anyone from Linden Labs reads this, please act on what I have said. Review the main grid and the drive engine. Once those issues are fixed then you can carry on updating stuff all you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta agree with Nad and Melchior &#8230;. it&#8217;s okay to for Linden to fix the small things, to update this, that and the other .. but it&#8217;s all meaningless while the essential problems (lag, freeze and crash) are all grid and drive engine issues. It&#8217;s fairly obvious to anyone with half a computer-orientated brain - even a relative techno-phobe like myself - that these major issues which plague the entire game would all be solved if Linden would simply fix the main grid and upgrade the central game drive-engine. Updating stuff like Windlight Viewer maybe nice, but when you are crashing on a regular basis (every 20 to 30 minutes like clockwork) with the latest version of Windlight &#8230; it&#8217;s obvious that the problem isn&#8217;t with Windlight but with the main grid and the central drive engine. Please, if anyone from Linden Labs reads this, please act on what I have said. Review the main grid and the drive engine. Once those issues are fixed then you can carry on updating stuff all you like.</p>
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