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	<title>Comments on: Age verification enters Grid-wide beta</title>
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	<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/</link>
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		<title>By: Dana Hickman</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546597</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering how deep this verification "beta" goes as far as inworld access. It says it's tied to the new RC viewer in the first line of the blog, and that residents can now flag adult parcels because of that. My question is... Where does that leave the millions of residents using much older viewers? I, myself, am using the ancient 1.18.2(1) viewer (the last mandatory upgrade/first main grid voice) because it's been rock solid stable for me. If this beta is live, and my viewer doesnt support it... Am I now going to have to make the choice of either staying with this solid client and probably being banned from my favorite dance clubs/shops/etc.., or be forced to update to the newest RC client with windlight and all its bugs and possibly not be able to get into SL at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering how deep this verification &#8220;beta&#8221; goes as far as inworld access. It says it&#8217;s tied to the new RC viewer in the first line of the blog, and that residents can now flag adult parcels because of that. My question is&#8230; Where does that leave the millions of residents using much older viewers? I, myself, am using the ancient 1.18.2(1) viewer (the last mandatory upgrade/first main grid voice) because it&#8217;s been rock solid stable for me. If this beta is live, and my viewer doesnt support it&#8230; Am I now going to have to make the choice of either staying with this solid client and probably being banned from my favorite dance clubs/shops/etc.., or be forced to update to the newest RC client with windlight and all its bugs and possibly not be able to get into SL at all?</p>
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		<title>By: reuben steuben</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546595</link>
		<dc:creator>reuben steuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So my question is:  will Linden Labs Flag the New Search Engine with adult  content or is it ok for  kids to view adult content as long as its Linden Showing it?

Maybe  your thinking Children won't know what sculpted Genitals are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my question is:  will Linden Labs Flag the New Search Engine with adult  content or is it ok for  kids to view adult content as long as its Linden Showing it?</p>
<p>Maybe  your thinking Children won&#8217;t know what sculpted Genitals are?</p>
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		<title>By: Suri Cassady</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546594</link>
		<dc:creator>Suri Cassady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am all for the protection of minors, I, like many of you, have a problem with giving out my personal information.  With all the failed verifications going on now I don't know if I should attempt this until it's resolved.  I recommend using AgeLock as an alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am all for the protection of minors, I, like many of you, have a problem with giving out my personal information.  With all the failed verifications going on now I don&#8217;t know if I should attempt this until it&#8217;s resolved.  I recommend using AgeLock as an alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisse Zabelin</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546592</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisse Zabelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad idea Linden Labs!
1st of all that does not work by me...
2nd:
Jeska Linden Says: 

December 5th, 2007 at 4:04 PM PST 
Hey everyone, the security certificate message was due to the link starting with “https” instead of “http” and has since been fixed -sorry about that!


and no statement to the other users that are angry?
it does not work... and till you LL fixed it all we can not enter regions who set that right?
yeaaw where is the post a few days before to notificate us? you forgot that or what?

well SL is anyway an ADULD GRID so why an age verification? There was a Teen Grid b4....

that is really stuipt im sorry....

please LINDEN LAB at least you could write a Statement to that! 
wont work
its not needet
99% of all SL residents dont like it

IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THINGS.... YOU WILL HAVE SOON MAX. 30.000 USERS ONLY ONLINE...
many SL residents will leave SL... you dont even ask us what we want? we write an email with 400 people to support with ONE idea about SL what 99.9 % of users would LOVE! you only write "we are sorry that we are not able to do that at the moment please let us know if we can do anything for you" that makes real sence you dont think so? rofl

well everyone i asked would be happy about this idea (what i wont explain here now) but you dont care...
so LL one questiuon..... do you really care aout all the residents? 

SL should be "MADE BY RESIDENTS - FOR RESIDENTS" or is that wrong???? well you better should listen what ALL OF THE RESIDENTS want here in SL and not what you want or what you think or like.... SL should be everything what  most of the residents like...

or maby another stupit idea of me
did you ever thought about Fixing all the bugs before you add more and more and more features? well SL lags, crashes then came voice... sl crashes, laggs, unable to login, and there was Windlight... then SL laggs, SL Crashes, unable to connect to dns server, and IF u can login always... tp doesnt work, money is shown as loading and so on..... then came now the age verification.... 
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NEXT??? new features? really helpful lindens sure.... bugs getting more, features getting more, and bugs ever more the before....

and now an age verification that doesnt work by 40 - 50 % of the residents

do you MAKE the bugs only that you can work more?

really lindens i dont understand that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad idea Linden Labs!<br />
1st of all that does not work by me&#8230;<br />
2nd:<br />
Jeska Linden Says: </p>
<p>December 5th, 2007 at 4:04 PM PST<br />
Hey everyone, the security certificate message was due to the link starting with “https” instead of “http” and has since been fixed -sorry about that!</p>
<p>and no statement to the other users that are angry?<br />
it does not work&#8230; and till you LL fixed it all we can not enter regions who set that right?<br />
yeaaw where is the post a few days before to notificate us? you forgot that or what?</p>
<p>well SL is anyway an ADULD GRID so why an age verification? There was a Teen Grid b4&#8230;.</p>
<p>that is really stuipt im sorry&#8230;.</p>
<p>please LINDEN LAB at least you could write a Statement to that!<br />
wont work<br />
its not needet<br />
99% of all SL residents dont like it</p>
<p>IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THINGS&#8230;. YOU WILL HAVE SOON MAX. 30.000 USERS ONLY ONLINE&#8230;<br />
many SL residents will leave SL&#8230; you dont even ask us what we want? we write an email with 400 people to support with ONE idea about SL what 99.9 % of users would LOVE! you only write &#8220;we are sorry that we are not able to do that at the moment please let us know if we can do anything for you&#8221; that makes real sence you dont think so? rofl</p>
<p>well everyone i asked would be happy about this idea (what i wont explain here now) but you dont care&#8230;<br />
so LL one questiuon&#8230;.. do you really care aout all the residents? </p>
<p>SL should be &#8220;MADE BY RESIDENTS - FOR RESIDENTS&#8221; or is that wrong???? well you better should listen what ALL OF THE RESIDENTS want here in SL and not what you want or what you think or like&#8230;. SL should be everything what  most of the residents like&#8230;</p>
<p>or maby another stupit idea of me<br />
did you ever thought about Fixing all the bugs before you add more and more and more features? well SL lags, crashes then came voice&#8230; sl crashes, laggs, unable to login, and there was Windlight&#8230; then SL laggs, SL Crashes, unable to connect to dns server, and IF u can login always&#8230; tp doesnt work, money is shown as loading and so on&#8230;.. then came now the age verification&#8230;.<br />
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NEXT??? new features? really helpful lindens sure&#8230;. bugs getting more, features getting more, and bugs ever more the before&#8230;.</p>
<p>and now an age verification that doesnt work by 40 - 50 % of the residents</p>
<p>do you MAKE the bugs only that you can work more?</p>
<p>really lindens i dont understand that</p>
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		<title>By: Kasolai Nighbor</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546591</link>
		<dc:creator>Kasolai Nighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well LL, my age verification FAILED with both the last 4 digits of my SS number and my VALID drivers license! No, I'm not in another country, I'm in the US.

How am I supposed to verify now ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well LL, my age verification FAILED with both the last 4 digits of my SS number and my VALID drivers license! No, I&#8217;m not in another country, I&#8217;m in the US.</p>
<p>How am I supposed to verify now ??</p>
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		<title>By: Morden Winkler</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546590</link>
		<dc:creator>Morden Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canadians, BY LAW YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE PERSONAL INFORMATION to be verified! 

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Asking for a SIN, which technically not illegal, is a BIG blunder. That's the key which pulls together ALL your information compiled by the federal government. I suspect there are going to be a stream of formal complaints made to the Privacy Commissioner about this.

There is not ONE piece of information on that drop-down list that I feel comfortable giving to Second Life. I'd rather skip the adult parts than give up this much of my privacy.

Also, according to Canada's Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act. businesses must supply you with a product or a service even if you refuse consent for the collection, use or disclosure of your personal information unless that information is essential to the transaction.

Source: http://www.privcom.gc.ca/information/02_05_d_08_e.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canadians, BY LAW YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE PERSONAL INFORMATION to be verified! </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Asking for a SIN, which technically not illegal, is a BIG blunder. That&#8217;s the key which pulls together ALL your information compiled by the federal government. I suspect there are going to be a stream of formal complaints made to the Privacy Commissioner about this.</p>
<p>There is not ONE piece of information on that drop-down list that I feel comfortable giving to Second Life. I&#8217;d rather skip the adult parts than give up this much of my privacy.</p>
<p>Also, according to Canada&#8217;s Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act. businesses must supply you with a product or a service even if you refuse consent for the collection, use or disclosure of your personal information unless that information is essential to the transaction.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.privcom.gc.ca/information/02_05_d_08_e.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.privcom.gc.ca/information/02_05_d_08_e.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tigey Honey</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546587</link>
		<dc:creator>Tigey Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone needs to fire a lawyer that suggested this - bye bye SL I have had enough of the lagg, and false promises - you should all stop and ask yourselves when is enough enough, this has just become a joke. you treat your customers like cattle, if SL has done anything lately, it is prove how much  people will let themselves get pushed around. why should we stay, nothing works
 last one out, shut off the lights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone needs to fire a lawyer that suggested this - bye bye SL I have had enough of the lagg, and false promises - you should all stop and ask yourselves when is enough enough, this has just become a joke. you treat your customers like cattle, if SL has done anything lately, it is prove how much  people will let themselves get pushed around. why should we stay, nothing works<br />
 last one out, shut off the lights</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Brynner</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546584</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Brynner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn't work for me, I just get "failed", and passport is the only thing I got for identification.

by the way, are characters like "ß" allowed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t work for me, I just get &#8220;failed&#8221;, and passport is the only thing I got for identification.</p>
<p>by the way, are characters like &#8220;ß&#8221; allowed?</p>
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		<title>By: Sling Trebuchet</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546583</link>
		<dc:creator>Sling Trebuchet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@81
This is an ADULT environment. Show your parents ID at the door, and go play at the BSDM dungeon or Gor slave market with the other kiddies and adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@81<br />
This is an ADULT environment. Show your parents ID at the door, and go play at the BSDM dungeon or Gor slave market with the other kiddies and adults.</p>
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		<title>By: shug</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/12/05/age-verification-enters-grid-wide-beta/#comment-546578</link>
		<dc:creator>shug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have bugger all chance of verfying your age if you live outside of the United States. The verification page doesn't support states from the country in which I reside and constantly fails. Shame that - certainly was able to verify my credit card quick enough when I upgraded to premium quite a few moons ago. GO GLOBAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have bugger all chance of verfying your age if you live outside of the United States. The verification page doesn&#8217;t support states from the country in which I reside and constantly fails. Shame that - certainly was able to verify my credit card quick enough when I upgraded to premium quite a few moons ago. GO GLOBAL.</p>
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