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		<title>By: how to make money fast</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-596642</link>
		<dc:creator>how to make money fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Popular Posts Collection of Sites Providing Free Web Icons and Buttons HeySpread: Submit Your Videos To Best Video Networks In One Shot Gatineau: Microsoft's Reply to Google Analytics? Collection of Tools/ Sites to Create Tag Cloud Moving To Bangalore: How to decide on Schools in Bangalore? Why Technical People Get Paid Less Than Managers Algorithm to defuse bombs! Colorzilla: Advanced Eyedropper, ColorPicker, Page Zoomer Add- on For Firefox Hear Any RSS Feed Excel 2007:</description>
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		<title>By: Update to Second Life 1.19 Viewer Now Required &#171; Official Second Life Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Update to Second Life 1.19 Viewer Now Required &#171; Official Second Life Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] using older viewers (1.18.5(3), 1.18.4(3), 1.18.3(5), .18.2(1)) will be prompted to update to Second Life 1.19.1 on login. Should [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Required Viewer Update to 1.19.0 [POSTPONED] &#171; Official Second Life Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-590004</link>
		<dc:creator>Required Viewer Update to 1.19.0 [POSTPONED] &#171; Official Second Life Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1.18.5(3) - released November 29, 2007 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dahlia Eilde &#38; Nicolas Sinatra</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-582331</link>
		<dc:creator>Dahlia Eilde &#38; Nicolas Sinatra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with what others have said about the voice client. I am extremely displeased by these "updates" and wish to revert back to the previous version ASAP. It absolutely ruined voice for me, and if it were to stay this way I'd opt not using it at all.. Skype, as horrible as it is, is better than what you've done to a wonderful voice system.

If anyone could please link me to a site where I could revert back to before this so called update, please e-mail me at hebrews113@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with what others have said about the voice client. I am extremely displeased by these &#8220;updates&#8221; and wish to revert back to the previous version ASAP. It absolutely ruined voice for me, and if it were to stay this way I&#8217;d opt not using it at all.. Skype, as horrible as it is, is better than what you&#8217;ve done to a wonderful voice system.</p>
<p>If anyone could please link me to a site where I could revert back to before this so called update, please e-mail me at <a href="mailto:hebrews113@gmail.com">hebrews113@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Where does Windows Vista Cache Windows Updates</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-563108</link>
		<dc:creator>Where does Windows Vista Cache Windows Updates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Nice points&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Edde Edman</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-550383</link>
		<dc:creator>Edde Edman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new search will destroy the sl.

this man said all I want to say:

” Netsah Kurosawa Says: 

December 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 AM PST
… I hate that new search system.. the reason? Because to pay for ads change nothing. I mean before in search engine my shop was in top 10 of searchlists for most of my keywords. And now noone can find it except if they know the name of the shop. What I see in that new search system is people who are the richest will become more rich and all the others will have to make more ads everywhere even if they don’t have the money for that… I find that stupid. The old search engine was more logic.. The old search was giving same chance to everyone…
If I write that today it’s cause I talked of that with lot of people in SL, owners of shops or not, and they all think the same.
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The new SEACH WILL DESTROY the small bunisess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new search will destroy the sl.</p>
<p>this man said all I want to say:</p>
<p>” Netsah Kurosawa Says: </p>
<p>December 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 AM PST<br />
… I hate that new search system.. the reason? Because to pay for ads change nothing. I mean before in search engine my shop was in top 10 of searchlists for most of my keywords. And now noone can find it except if they know the name of the shop. What I see in that new search system is people who are the richest will become more rich and all the others will have to make more ads everywhere even if they don’t have the money for that… I find that stupid. The old search engine was more logic.. The old search was giving same chance to everyone…<br />
If I write that today it’s cause I talked of that with lot of people in SL, owners of shops or not, and they all think the same.<br />
“”<br />
The new SEACH WILL DESTROY the small bunisess</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Finsbury</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-549181</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Finsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this banning by age isnt going to work if you place your building above 100m. My alt is banned from one of my lots due to the age thing. I flew up to 100m and the ban is gone. Just set your stuff above 100m and call it good. unless this is a bug that they are looking into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this banning by age isnt going to work if you place your building above 100m. My alt is banned from one of my lots due to the age thing. I flew up to 100m and the ban is gone. Just set your stuff above 100m and call it good. unless this is a bug that they are looking into.</p>
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		<title>By: Bit Confused</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-544652</link>
		<dc:creator>Bit Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeska,

i got several 16 qm parcels ticked as show under places...I assumed i don´t have to state this. So question rephrased, is there any minimum size of a parcel listed under places, to be listed under all as well?

And a bit more feedback

The Search shouldn´t start with those 8 top paid ads. They cover 80% of the basic avatar needs if not more and lots of revenues are getting diverted to those 8. For now it´s a fight between the "sl majors" but soon Wowdumbfoam &#38; Co will kick these out and we got only irl advertisement in there.

The featured ads should not appear at all. For some i wonder what they do there anyway. They are watering the search results completely and again divert revenues to businesses that should be mentioned next to the top search results. What is the criteria for showing up there? I even see 51 L$ ads there. I will now kill all ads above 100 L$ and replace them with 51 L$ ones. Hopefully everyone else does too, so it finally hurts you too.

Why can i filter to see only classifieds on the all search. That´s not an all search anymore. If at all, then give us a feature to exclude categories from all and not just to list a certain category. What´s the difference to the classic search then?

My revenues are down by ca. 40% since the new search despite me having managed to climb on top again for a number of my fav keywords. If it remains like that, it will make me close and sell my land.

Almost anything a business owner changes now will either negatively affect the old all search or the new one. Worst, you cannot even see if what you´ve done made sense instantly.

Stop using us as beta testers and pretending to the outside world sl is a business platform. It´s a secondliving joke, when it comes to business. How can you release this now, forcing all merchants to change their places names &#38; ads, when you already state that things are still up for change. Does that mean, i can put another few days in there every once in a week?

regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeska,</p>
<p>i got several 16 qm parcels ticked as show under places&#8230;I assumed i don´t have to state this. So question rephrased, is there any minimum size of a parcel listed under places, to be listed under all as well?</p>
<p>And a bit more feedback</p>
<p>The Search shouldn´t start with those 8 top paid ads. They cover 80% of the basic avatar needs if not more and lots of revenues are getting diverted to those 8. For now it´s a fight between the &#8220;sl majors&#8221; but soon Wowdumbfoam &amp; Co will kick these out and we got only irl advertisement in there.</p>
<p>The featured ads should not appear at all. For some i wonder what they do there anyway. They are watering the search results completely and again divert revenues to businesses that should be mentioned next to the top search results. What is the criteria for showing up there? I even see 51 L$ ads there. I will now kill all ads above 100 L$ and replace them with 51 L$ ones. Hopefully everyone else does too, so it finally hurts you too.</p>
<p>Why can i filter to see only classifieds on the all search. That´s not an all search anymore. If at all, then give us a feature to exclude categories from all and not just to list a certain category. What´s the difference to the classic search then?</p>
<p>My revenues are down by ca. 40% since the new search despite me having managed to climb on top again for a number of my fav keywords. If it remains like that, it will make me close and sell my land.</p>
<p>Almost anything a business owner changes now will either negatively affect the old all search or the new one. Worst, you cannot even see if what you´ve done made sense instantly.</p>
<p>Stop using us as beta testers and pretending to the outside world sl is a business platform. It´s a secondliving joke, when it comes to business. How can you release this now, forcing all merchants to change their places names &amp; ads, when you already state that things are still up for change. Does that mean, i can put another few days in there every once in a week?</p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: Cristalle Karami</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/29/new-viewer-second-life-1185-viewer-now-available/#comment-544238</link>
		<dc:creator>Cristalle Karami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response, Jeska.

My view is that classified ads that are not sorted by paid order in a search of all classifieds are inherently less valuable to the middle body of ads that would otherwise be featured earlier in the body of search.

I know from running my own tests with certain keywords that even the top 10 ads often fall deep into the search - 20, 40 pages deep and beyond, in favor of ads that pay a scant fraction of the cost.  People pay for visibility, and that you would remove it for so many people really is disturbing, considering the many thousands of L paid weekly for high positioning.  That such highly paid ads would be pre-empted by a barely descriptive 50L ad with a lot of keys hammered into it is salt in the wound.  

I hope you're measuring the amount of clickthroughs on the featured ads versus the main body of search, and are measuring how many pages deep those ads are getting clicked through.  Because I honestly think that because search is tedious, and attention spans are short, that after a few pages, it's not worth having a featured ad.  As such, the value of a featured ad is debatable, and is definitely not the same value as having ads listed in paid order.  

I myself have a middling priced ad - enough to land on page 1 of my category, but not right at the top.  It's a level of positioning I am comfortable with.  Without diddling with my ad, which was highly descriptive of my offerings, I would have ended up on page 41.  41!  That is not acceptable, not when I paid for that visibility.  So now I have a bigger block of keywords than I would have otherwise had, and have gamed my way to the top.  My middling ad comes up as a feature on page 3 or so in the feature listings.  Not too shabby, but not as effective as being on page 1.  

I would like to request that classified stats get broken down and show us the top 3 keywords used to find us when teleporting, mapped, or profiled.  And to tell us how many clicks we got through search results, and through featured listings.  This is the only way to gauge whether or not it is worth paying more than 50L for an ad, and by how much.  

Because I'm already poised to adjust my ad budget down a bit, not enough to land on page 2 of the classic search, but enough to keep the best of both worlds and spread a few more cheap 50L ads that I will summarily game to the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response, Jeska.</p>
<p>My view is that classified ads that are not sorted by paid order in a search of all classifieds are inherently less valuable to the middle body of ads that would otherwise be featured earlier in the body of search.</p>
<p>I know from running my own tests with certain keywords that even the top 10 ads often fall deep into the search - 20, 40 pages deep and beyond, in favor of ads that pay a scant fraction of the cost.  People pay for visibility, and that you would remove it for so many people really is disturbing, considering the many thousands of L paid weekly for high positioning.  That such highly paid ads would be pre-empted by a barely descriptive 50L ad with a lot of keys hammered into it is salt in the wound.  </p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re measuring the amount of clickthroughs on the featured ads versus the main body of search, and are measuring how many pages deep those ads are getting clicked through.  Because I honestly think that because search is tedious, and attention spans are short, that after a few pages, it&#8217;s not worth having a featured ad.  As such, the value of a featured ad is debatable, and is definitely not the same value as having ads listed in paid order.  </p>
<p>I myself have a middling priced ad - enough to land on page 1 of my category, but not right at the top.  It&#8217;s a level of positioning I am comfortable with.  Without diddling with my ad, which was highly descriptive of my offerings, I would have ended up on page 41.  41!  That is not acceptable, not when I paid for that visibility.  So now I have a bigger block of keywords than I would have otherwise had, and have gamed my way to the top.  My middling ad comes up as a feature on page 3 or so in the feature listings.  Not too shabby, but not as effective as being on page 1.  </p>
<p>I would like to request that classified stats get broken down and show us the top 3 keywords used to find us when teleporting, mapped, or profiled.  And to tell us how many clicks we got through search results, and through featured listings.  This is the only way to gauge whether or not it is worth paying more than 50L for an ad, and by how much.  </p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m already poised to adjust my ad budget down a bit, not enough to land on page 2 of the classic search, but enough to keep the best of both worlds and spread a few more cheap 50L ads that I will summarily game to the top.</p>
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