Comments on: Launching the new Second Life Auction system today! http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/ By Linden Lab Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:32:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Auction software http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-590309 Auction software Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:27 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-590309 Selling successfully on eBay does not looks too hard. With the help of quality auction software, you wiould have a profitable eBay site or store set up that will help you to earn a lot of money. Selling successfully on eBay does not looks too hard. With the help of quality auction software, you wiould have a profitable eBay site or store set up that will help you to earn a lot of money.

]]> By: Duckling Kwak http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-484120 Duckling Kwak Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:15:35 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-484120 For the most part, the new system looks like a smart use on LL's part to leverage best-of-breed technology vs. investing their own development efforts to re-invent the wheel. If correct, this is good news if it frees up developers to focus more time on SL core technologies vs. auction systems. Smart move. The implementation does have a few quirks: 1) @51 - I agree. The missing closed auctions information is a real downgrade in capabilities of the auction system relative to the old one. The SL economy has already suffered more than enough damage; we really don't need more bullets. Taking away tools and information doesn't help; and it does hurt! 2) There haven't been enough auctions to tell either way, but the "Items A to Z are shown below" message suggests there could be multiple pages to display all auctioned land. If that's correct, then that's a nightmare. 3) I also find the sort by "relevancy" to be very confusing. First, "relevancy" relative to what? There was no search term, so what does "relevancy" mean? This sounds like an eBay-ism. And why make "relevancy" the default sort order? Why not "Ending Soon" to more closely approximate the old functionality? OR - allow the user to save his/her default sort order preference. 4) The SL logo doesn't take us back to our account information. Why? This is an inconsistent implementation (e.g., the Support site returns us to our SL account by clicking the logo). I like the use of the eBay technology in the auctions context. I think there are some quirks that need to be ironed out. The potential to add more functionality by leveraging eBay's capabilities is promising. I hope such new capabilities are implemented mindfully. DK For the most part, the new system looks like a smart use on LL’s part to leverage best-of-breed technology vs. investing their own development efforts to re-invent the wheel. If correct, this is good news if it frees up developers to focus more time on SL core technologies vs. auction systems. Smart move.

The implementation does have a few quirks:

1) @51 - I agree. The missing closed auctions information is a real downgrade in capabilities of the auction system relative to the old one. The SL economy has already suffered more than enough damage; we really don’t need more bullets. Taking away tools and information doesn’t help; and it does hurt!

2) There haven’t been enough auctions to tell either way, but the “Items A to Z are shown below” message suggests there could be multiple pages to display all auctioned land. If that’s correct, then that’s a nightmare.

3) I also find the sort by “relevancy” to be very confusing. First, “relevancy” relative to what? There was no search term, so what does “relevancy” mean? This sounds like an eBay-ism. And why make “relevancy” the default sort order? Why not “Ending Soon” to more closely approximate the old functionality? OR - allow the user to save his/her default sort order preference.

4) The SL logo doesn’t take us back to our account information. Why? This is an inconsistent implementation (e.g., the Support site returns us to our SL account by clicking the logo).

I like the use of the eBay technology in the auctions context. I think there are some quirks that need to be ironed out. The potential to add more functionality by leveraging eBay’s capabilities is promising. I hope such new capabilities are implemented mindfully.

DK

]]> By: Kitty Tandino http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-483920 Kitty Tandino Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:44 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-483920 just a thought- Alot of members i've spoken to have said they do not own a credit card or checking account.. and find paypal a painpal :D! there is a billing system in place "i've heard" that Uses your phone bill a a form of payment.. meaning the charges would be applyed to your phone bill every month... would that be an option for trying at a later point in time? i mean just think if people had another way to upgrade thier account.. how many new members would that be in the end? also alot of people get mad whn they find out they need a credit card... how many new members would we keep if we offered an option like that? again just a thought.... ~kitty just a thought-

Alot of members i’ve spoken to have said they do not own a credit card or checking account.. and find paypal a painpal :D!

there is a billing system in place “i’ve heard” that Uses your phone bill a a form of payment.. meaning the charges would be applyed to your phone bill every month…

would that be an option for trying at a later point in time? i mean just think if people had another way to upgrade thier account.. how many new members would that be in the end?

also alot of people get mad whn they find out they need a credit card… how many new members would we keep if we offered an option like that?

again just a thought….

~kitty

]]> By: Arsheba Nasu http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-483328 Arsheba Nasu Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:31:13 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-483328 This new system appears to only allow us to bid on Linden-owned land. I see no functionality for selling the two regions I'm now forced to unload due to the current crippling economic depression. Nothing in the FAQ mentions residents selling land in the auction system, only buying it. Are we supposed to be excited about this? This new system appears to only allow us to bid on Linden-owned land. I see no functionality for selling the two regions I’m now forced to unload due to the current crippling economic depression.

Nothing in the FAQ mentions residents selling land in the auction system, only buying it. Are we supposed to be excited about this?

]]> By: Ralph Doctorow http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-483241 Ralph Doctorow Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:51:12 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-483241 The new auction site seems to be missing information on closed auctions. This is extremely useful information. It also would be useful if the auction map wasn't blank all the time. The new auction site seems to be missing information on closed auctions. This is extremely useful information.

It also would be useful if the auction map wasn’t blank all the time.

]]> By: DeLorean Ghia http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482902 DeLorean Ghia Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:20:58 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482902 I've been playing in SL for almost 2 years now... for the past 2 years it's been the same thing. New feature implemented, old "features" (problems, headaches, etc etc) ignored. Seems like it's just become a spin-off of some "Pimp My ___" idea, where they're just painting over the old rust and broken axles that used to make SL an enjoyable experience The TOS used to be, pretty much, "Have fun, enjoy! If you own land... pay this amount." Now it's become "Have fun... but only if A C part of D and Q-Z requirements are met. Enjoy as long as M-P and subsections 2 and 5 of Q are met. If you own land, please feel free to bend over." We pay too much money for this game to have RL politics come in and ruin everything for us. No gambling, no this, no that, etc etc etc. I came to SL when I retired from World of Warcraft... seems more and more like I should head back there since if I kill someone in the game, I'm not treated like an actual murderer. Plus if I file a complaint with the people at WOW, it's actually answered!?! Amazing... Just look at this article. @ 45 legit complaints, and not one response from LL about what they're doing to fix any of it... hell, not one response actually even acknowledging the fact that people are complaining if the first place. But, thanks LL for fixing that link and letting us know how to log into the auction system that starting this whole s**tstorm in the first place. I’ve been playing in SL for almost 2 years now… for the past 2 years it’s been the same thing. New feature implemented, old “features” (problems, headaches, etc etc) ignored. Seems like it’s just become a spin-off of some “Pimp My ___” idea, where they’re just painting over the old rust and broken axles that used to make SL an enjoyable experience

The TOS used to be, pretty much, “Have fun, enjoy! If you own land… pay this amount.” Now it’s become “Have fun… but only if A C part of D and Q-Z requirements are met. Enjoy as long as M-P and subsections 2 and 5 of Q are met. If you own land, please feel free to bend over.” We pay too much money for this game to have RL politics come in and ruin everything for us. No gambling, no this, no that, etc etc etc. I came to SL when I retired from World of Warcraft… seems more and more like I should head back there since if I kill someone in the game, I’m not treated like an actual murderer. Plus if I file a complaint with the people at WOW, it’s actually answered!?! Amazing… Just look at this article. @ 45 legit complaints, and not one response from LL about what they’re doing to fix any of it… hell, not one response actually even acknowledging the fact that people are complaining if the first place. But, thanks LL for fixing that link and letting us know how to log into the auction system that starting this whole s**tstorm in the first place.

]]> By: Darth Juniper http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482554 Darth Juniper Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:10:29 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482554 In response to #32... Unles you hold a premium account you cannot OWN land on a private estate. You are merely renting it. If the person whose name is actually down in the Linden's files as the land owner wants too, they can suddenly chuck you off and your "owned" land is gone. With a premium account you can own land and cannot be moved off it by anyone except the Lindens. So don't make out that it's proper land ownership. There are too many dodgy characters who "sell" land to unsuspecting basic folks and then a week later they throw them off with no recourse. And don't try and claim this never happens, because I've seen it done. In response to #32…
Unles you hold a premium account you cannot OWN land on a private estate. You are merely renting it. If the person whose name is actually down in the Linden’s files as the land owner wants too, they can suddenly chuck you off and your “owned” land is gone. With a premium account you can own land and cannot be moved off it by anyone except the Lindens. So don’t make out that it’s proper land ownership. There are too many dodgy characters who “sell” land to unsuspecting basic folks and then a week later they throw them off with no recourse. And don’t try and claim this never happens, because I’ve seen it done.

]]> By: grizwald120 yue http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482365 grizwald120 yue Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:02:51 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482365 Hahaha! Now THAT was a good one, Juliet. Hahaha! Now THAT was a good one, Juliet.

]]> By: Drozler Eponym http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482323 Drozler Eponym Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:26:26 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482323 The major thing missing from the Auction process is to have a way to buy at Auction for a Group...or to allow individuals to buy and transfer the land (within say, 24 hours) and avoid getting "tiered up". My Partner cannot buy at land at auction for our Group because of this limitation. The major thing missing from the Auction process is to have a way to buy at Auction for a Group…or to allow individuals to buy and transfer the land (within say, 24 hours) and avoid getting “tiered up”. My Partner cannot buy at land at auction for our Group because of this limitation.

]]> By: Jeska Linden http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482238 Jeska Linden Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:24:19 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/09/19/launching-the-new-second-life-auction-system-today/#comment-482238 Currently in order to login to the Auction site and place a bid, you do need to have the ability to own land (ie: have a premium account). We are working on the error message, so that is more clear. You can of course still view the auctions! Currently in order to login to the Auction site and place a bid, you do need to have the ability to own land (ie: have a premium account). We are working on the error message, so that is more clear. You can of course still view the auctions!

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