Comments on: More Open Source: Our Web Services Libraries

By: Sandar Gausman

Sandar Gausman — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:56:17 +0000

Well, it’s been a long time since I did any development, but I must say that opening up the project to the open-source community is a step in the right direction. As As was posted earlier, every open source project has a manager (perhaps “coordinator” would be a better phrase) so that wild insane stuff won’t get incorporated.

I hope stability becomes more of a priority from now on.

By: The XO

The XO — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:23:35 +0000

@ Which Linden #52:

Thanks for clarifying - it’s appreciated.

Obviously everyone prefers grid stability rather than fancy viewers. I’m still using 1.18.0 (6) from July as I don’t get on with the layout on the voice one.

That being said, it would be nice if the Linux once worked as well as Mac and Windows, but I can live with it if the grid is more stable

I feel like a ranting **** now, but I wasn’t aware there was no necessary update for Linux.

Thanks for your time, and keep up the wonderful work I have actually noticed and commented on grid stability being better and less down time, so it’s all good

By: CyberTrooper Tran

CyberTrooper Tran — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:26:32 +0000

The majority of the posts in this discussion are being made by Open
Source enthusiasts’ blinded by their zealorty. The idea that Linus is
infinitly more secure than Windows is just plain wrong
You will never be able to stop top tier Hackers from invading systems (slow them down) , but never stop them, howwever when the source code is readily availible it’s an invitation to the less skilled to ply their trade
I am an Open Source enthusiast, but the reality of the world we live in can not be denied, proprieiary softwear system are absolutly essential to the heath of a major web sevice like SL.

By: Which Linden

Which Linden — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:11:12 +0000

It’s just demo/debugging code, you’d have to tinker with it a bit to get it to run. (i.e. the existence of this code does not imply that a backdoor [which is just a listening socket] is actually running anywhere)

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By: Nulflux Negulesco

Nulflux Negulesco — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:22:38 +0000

Don’t tell me I’m the only one that noticed the built-in backdoor eventlet code that creates arbitrary connections to arbitrary addresses and ports… I almost can’t believe it’s named Backdoor.py! Umm… Are you sure that’s safe guys, giving us the backdoor code? roflmao

By: Asmo Aya

Asmo Aya — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:41:35 +0000

She may be a troll, but she, and I, will be two people who won’t lose everything when SL is hacked but good, either because of the “open sourcing” or whatever other reason LL allows to happen from their own incompetence…

Bye, SL, good riddance LL… I’ve cleaned this particular “virus waiting to happen” from my system.

By: Momoko Market

Momoko Market — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:10:34 +0000

How about voice functionality for all the residents? Those with linux and those of us who enjoyed it in first Look only to have it taken away when it went grid-wide? What’s up with that? Huh?

By: SimonRaven

SimonRaven — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:27:32 +0000

OT: I agree, GoogleMama is just trolling. Go ahead, rant and rave, you’re just showing yourself to be a fool.

On-topic:
As for the slow release of bits and pieces, whomever mentioned that a few comments ago is hit. nail. head. on that one. Good
explanation BTW, thanks for that. Every project big and small does it that way or another (basic format is similar). In no way shape
or form is anyone that submits backdoor code let onto the committer group (in one project form), they’d get their cyber-ass kicked
;). Nor is someone like that ever tolerated in some of the other project group forms, they just aren’t welcome.

The F/OSS community “cred” is based on your merits, and contributions (and behaviour towards others more, nowadays). If someone
doesn’t understand that, they should re-learn how to share. Yes there are bad rotten apples, but how many do you actually think are
on those committer/submitter groups, and actually get to stay there? 0. Like the other person said, it’s called peer review, the
scientific community has been doing this for years. I’m not saying there isn’t any politics, but in those 2 communities, that
sort of thing is frowned upon.

Off-topic:
I would suggest a killfile or /ignore on GoogleMama ;).

By: SimonRaven

SimonRaven — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:09:47 +0000

I’m tired of people thinking open source anything equalling insecurity. I’m afraid that people that do that equation have been lied
to, and/or are ignorant of the real facts, instead of the FUD micro$oft and others put out. I worry more about closed
source software, frankly. You can’t go check if there’s a backdoor in that thing, or say “hey, you know, this is a potential for
trouble in this file foo.py here, line 42″ or “you could speed this section up a bit by doing this instead of that”, or such things.

Open sourcing something has tremendous benefits, and most big hardware and software corporations are getting into it, or into it
already. The ones that aren’t are going to turn into dinosaurs (if you’re into that kind of “cred”); for me, it simply means that I
can go look, or others can, and publish their findings on it, and contribute to it in whatever form they like, be it source,
helpful bug reports (that actually get followed up on, instead of getting ignored intentionally), or other contributions. I suspected
LL and SL were into F/OSS when I heard their servers run on Debian ;).

I think people will see the truth of what I say when they start seeing improvements in security, stability, and responsiveness. Hell,
I have on my old slow P3/500 MHz 256 MB RAM box, client side. I know it’ll happen server side.

I just hope LL and SL get real on what really matters in the end, instead of acting like a typical corporation.

BTW, Linden people, I would seriously consider sticking the sims on xen, everyone will benefit, and can save on Earth’s resources
*hint hint*.