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	<title>Comments on: Keeping Second Life Safe, Together</title>
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		<title>By: Jessicka Graves</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311460</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessicka Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are speaking on our behalf, for some reason, and are only looking for a good article in the newspaper, they couldn't care less what we say. They, as with everything else, will always do what they want, and then tell us after its done, so even creating a blog about it does nothing other than tell us what they are implementing, they might as well close comments right now, and delete the past ones, they couldn't care less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are speaking on our behalf, for some reason, and are only looking for a good article in the newspaper, they couldn&#8217;t care less what we say. They, as with everything else, will always do what they want, and then tell us after its done, so even creating a blog about it does nothing other than tell us what they are implementing, they might as well close comments right now, and delete the past ones, they couldn&#8217;t care less.</p>
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		<title>By: Milton Hayek</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311459</link>
		<dc:creator>Milton Hayek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casually equating "offensive" with "unsafe" is dishonest newspeak.  I use SL almost exclusively to chat about political philosophy. Whether I like Linden Labs' policies or not I defend their right to make any policies they want, even silly ones.  But in defense of the English language from the forces of PC Newspeak I protest this dishonest misrepresentation.  No SAFETY issue is involved. Sticks and stones may break my bones but neither SL nukes nor other people's nasty fantasies can do more than inconvenience me. So by all means ban whatever you find excessively offensive but don't insult adult's intelligence by saying it is for "safety". To me, THAT is highly offensive.  And as for those who don't like LL's policies start your own metaverses.  Do it well enough and LL becomes irrelevant.  I'd love to see thousands of independent sims each with their own independent sovereigns, their own physics, their own rules, their own visa requirements for visitors, etc.  If you do I hope you'll let us all know. SL is boringly similar everywhere you go and with the need for mikes and headphones being crammed down our throats it is about to become more expensive and I fear utterly banal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casually equating &#8220;offensive&#8221; with &#8220;unsafe&#8221; is dishonest newspeak.  I use SL almost exclusively to chat about political philosophy. Whether I like Linden Labs&#8217; policies or not I defend their right to make any policies they want, even silly ones.  But in defense of the English language from the forces of PC Newspeak I protest this dishonest misrepresentation.  No SAFETY issue is involved. Sticks and stones may break my bones but neither SL nukes nor other people&#8217;s nasty fantasies can do more than inconvenience me. So by all means ban whatever you find excessively offensive but don&#8217;t insult adult&#8217;s intelligence by saying it is for &#8220;safety&#8221;. To me, THAT is highly offensive.  And as for those who don&#8217;t like LL&#8217;s policies start your own metaverses.  Do it well enough and LL becomes irrelevant.  I&#8217;d love to see thousands of independent sims each with their own independent sovereigns, their own physics, their own rules, their own visa requirements for visitors, etc.  If you do I hope you&#8217;ll let us all know. SL is boringly similar everywhere you go and with the need for mikes and headphones being crammed down our throats it is about to become more expensive and I fear utterly banal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Bumstead</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311457</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Bumstead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#93:
"The majority of your users are adults. Adults with their own sense of what is right and what is wrong. As others have stated: Nothing in Second Life happens without CONSENT. We don’t need you to protect us in the way that you are trying to FORCE."

And with age verification coming into play, all of the users able to view "explicit" content will theoretically be adults. So I see no point in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#93:<br />
&#8220;The majority of your users are adults. Adults with their own sense of what is right and what is wrong. As others have stated: Nothing in Second Life happens without CONSENT. We don’t need you to protect us in the way that you are trying to FORCE.&#8221;</p>
<p>And with age verification coming into play, all of the users able to view &#8220;explicit&#8221; content will theoretically be adults. So I see no point in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryder Spearmann</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryder Spearmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeping is SAFE???  what the heck kind of NewSpeak is this?  SAFE?  

Look, being offended is one thing... this politically correct encorachment on freedoms of adults to choose has offensive components as well....

But hiding it behind a facade of "Safety" when nobody is in danger in the first place stinks of a certain kind of foolishness... and folly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping is SAFE???  what the heck kind of NewSpeak is this?  SAFE?  </p>
<p>Look, being offended is one thing&#8230; this politically correct encorachment on freedoms of adults to choose has offensive components as well&#8230;.</p>
<p>But hiding it behind a facade of &#8220;Safety&#8221; when nobody is in danger in the first place stinks of a certain kind of foolishness&#8230; and folly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhapsody Rutherford</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311456</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhapsody Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an extremely open mind and honestly have no issue with places like Hard Alley. I also believe that portraying the act of child molestation stands in a catagory all by itself. I understand the idea that these are supposed to be adults in rl. Is that honestly supposed to make me feel better? It doesnt. Age play doesnt bother me if done by two adults but the child avatar, when added to the ageplay does. If LL is claiming to be doing whatever it is they are going to do (highly unclear) because the community asked for it, then they need to truely ask us, the community what we feel is acceptable to us and what isnt. Why note take a community vote on what is untolerable to us and what is acceptable even if we dont engage in such activity. At least then there would be a place to start from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an extremely open mind and honestly have no issue with places like Hard Alley. I also believe that portraying the act of child molestation stands in a catagory all by itself. I understand the idea that these are supposed to be adults in rl. Is that honestly supposed to make me feel better? It doesnt. Age play doesnt bother me if done by two adults but the child avatar, when added to the ageplay does. If LL is claiming to be doing whatever it is they are going to do (highly unclear) because the community asked for it, then they need to truely ask us, the community what we feel is acceptable to us and what isnt. Why note take a community vote on what is untolerable to us and what is acceptable even if we dont engage in such activity. At least then there would be a place to start from.</p>
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		<title>By: Nebulosus Severine</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311455</link>
		<dc:creator>Nebulosus Severine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the mere suggestion of these fascist standards to be "BROADLY OFFENSIVE."  Sounds like the majority of others do, too.  But what do we know, right?  We only BUILT THIS WORLD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the mere suggestion of these fascist standards to be &#8220;BROADLY OFFENSIVE.&#8221;  Sounds like the majority of others do, too.  But what do we know, right?  We only BUILT THIS WORLD.</p>
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		<title>By: flavian</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311454</link>
		<dc:creator>flavian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would rather see people have sex with cartoon babies than participate in censorship or your request to narc out fellow citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would rather see people have sex with cartoon babies than participate in censorship or your request to narc out fellow citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: akila Yue</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311453</link>
		<dc:creator>akila Yue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to bash the LL here, but when people come here in a FANTASY world in hopes of having fun and creating a FANTASY atmosphere that they can slip into when life just isn't exciting enough, and the LL want to play Hitler and ban people for amusing themselves, then what is next? Did any of you ever think this keeps the pedophiles and rapists from actually preforming the deviant acts irl with someone that is actually interested in their desires? How many people have spent hundreds, thousands of dollars creating a gritty environment that is something that they only dreamed of? How many people have paid their dues monthly to now be threatened with banning because they have a certain fetish? This is the biggest pile of donkey crap I've ever heard. Linden's, you have lost cool points. Go back to the drawing board and think of another way to stomp around in your nazi uniforms. And to all of those of you that are "hurt" over such offensive acts, DO NOT GO INTO THE CHAT SIM. Go sit by a beach or something and wallow about how Daddy touched your hoohoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to bash the LL here, but when people come here in a FANTASY world in hopes of having fun and creating a FANTASY atmosphere that they can slip into when life just isn&#8217;t exciting enough, and the LL want to play Hitler and ban people for amusing themselves, then what is next? Did any of you ever think this keeps the pedophiles and rapists from actually preforming the deviant acts irl with someone that is actually interested in their desires? How many people have spent hundreds, thousands of dollars creating a gritty environment that is something that they only dreamed of? How many people have paid their dues monthly to now be threatened with banning because they have a certain fetish? This is the biggest pile of donkey crap I&#8217;ve ever heard. Linden&#8217;s, you have lost cool points. Go back to the drawing board and think of another way to stomp around in your nazi uniforms. And to all of those of you that are &#8220;hurt&#8221; over such offensive acts, DO NOT GO INTO THE CHAT SIM. Go sit by a beach or something and wallow about how Daddy touched your hoohoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixel Beam</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311451</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixel Beam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn't anyone nagging about the fact that these comments about moderating sexual behavior in Second Life are themselves being moderated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t anyone nagging about the fact that these comments about moderating sexual behavior in Second Life are themselves being moderated?</p>
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		<title>By: Untameable Wildcat</title>
		<link>http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/#comment-311447</link>
		<dc:creator>Untameable Wildcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, um, all these 24/7 staffers - when are they going to fix problems such as the group IM window not staying closed and other basic SL problems?  While I can appreciate the need to stay on top of ARs it shouldn't draw staff away from fixing bugs.  If there aren't enough to do both, you need more staff - not reassigning those you already have to this weeks hot topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, um, all these 24/7 staffers - when are they going to fix problems such as the group IM window not staying closed and other basic SL problems?  While I can appreciate the need to stay on top of ARs it shouldn&#8217;t draw staff away from fixing bugs.  If there aren&#8217;t enough to do both, you need more staff - not reassigning those you already have to this weeks hot topic.</p>
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