Comments on: 1.14.0 Known Issues: Drivers, VBO, ATI X300/X600 notebooks, and other woes http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/ By Linden Lab Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:27:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Morpheous Tran http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-215046 Morpheous Tran Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:08:00 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-215046 Went back to 1.13 and been ok for a week then crash... manually deleting cache again. I hope if didnt crash because my graphics card is nearing its end from crunching through this "upgrade to 1.14". Come on Lindens.. still not one single response to the "very small percentage"? Throw us a bone! Went back to 1.13 and been ok for a week then crash… manually deleting cache again. I hope if didnt crash because my graphics card is nearing its end from crunching through this “upgrade to 1.14″.

Come on Lindens.. still not one single response to the “very small percentage”? Throw us a bone!

]]> By: freekydagger http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-211207 freekydagger Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:40:31 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-211207 I have a bran new Dell computer with Windows Vista, IE 7 actualy this is my second new computer long story. Anyhow it's a new computer so I don't think I need to upgrade anything just yet so what more should I look for the reson of the program crashing? I get as far as loading may take a few seconds then a small grey box shows up telling me my avatar should appear soon then gone. I have a bran new Dell computer with Windows Vista, IE 7 actualy this is my second new computer long story.
Anyhow it’s a new computer so I don’t think I need to upgrade anything just yet so what more should I look for the reson of the program crashing? I get as far as loading may take a few seconds then a small grey box shows up telling me my avatar should appear soon then gone.

]]> By: Arianna Oranos http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208657 Arianna Oranos Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:59:25 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208657 From About Second Life: You are at 250451.9, 258379.4, 23.0 in Xalapa located at sim2008.agni.lindenlab.com (64.129.40.12:13004) CPU: Not supported (3000 Mhz) Memory: 1279 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. Graphics Card: MOBILITY RADEON 9700 x86/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 1.5.4391 WinXP Release LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.9_0000000000) Packets Lost: 4/553 (0.7%) Viewer Digest: 62f26f0c-94cd-1933-6063-7fab86f82ad8 My laptop's manufacturer is Acer and the model is Aspire 1670. No new drivers just yet - and it is unlikely that they will provide new ones in the near future; this means that I'm pretty much stuck. The new viewer gave me all the rezzing problems I experienced in the laggiest moments of the most unstable builds in the past and its performance is terribly slow. I eventually had to revert to 1.13, which doesn't quite burn up the highways with its speed, but is at least reasonable and doesn't give me rezzing problems all over the place every other second. From About Second Life:

You are at 250451.9, 258379.4, 23.0 in Xalapa located at sim2008.agni.lindenlab.com (64.129.40.12:13004)

CPU: Not supported (3000 Mhz)
Memory: 1279 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: MOBILITY RADEON 9700 x86/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 1.5.4391 WinXP Release
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.9_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 4/553 (0.7%)
Viewer Digest: 62f26f0c-94cd-1933-6063-7fab86f82ad8

My laptop’s manufacturer is Acer and the model is Aspire 1670. No new drivers just yet - and it is unlikely that they will provide new ones in the near future; this means that I’m pretty much stuck. The new viewer gave me all the rezzing problems I experienced in the laggiest moments of the most unstable builds in the past and its performance is terribly slow. I eventually had to revert to 1.13, which doesn’t quite burn up the highways with its speed, but is at least reasonable and doesn’t give me rezzing problems all over the place every other second.

]]> By: Arianna Oranos http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208372 Arianna Oranos Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:45:02 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208372 It is imperative that backwards compatibility with ATI Radeon/Mobility Radeon 9600/9700-equipped machines that CANNOT get a newer version of OpenGL is ensured. I have already mentioned my situation with my Acer Aspire 1670 laptop. It is imperative that backwards compatibility with ATI Radeon/Mobility Radeon 9600/9700-equipped machines that CANNOT get a newer version of OpenGL is ensured. I have already mentioned my situation with my Acer Aspire 1670 laptop.

]]> By: Burton Newall http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208359 Burton Newall Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:32:07 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208359 Plus, the update didn't fix the alpha channel texture problem! :-( Plus, the update didn’t fix the alpha channel texture problem! :-(

]]> By: Burton Newall http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208356 Burton Newall Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:26:44 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208356 And an update: after uninstalling and installing the latest client, I now crash every five minutes, regular as clockwork. This is NOT an improvement, I must say. And an update: after uninstalling and installing the latest client, I now crash every five minutes, regular as clockwork. This is NOT an improvement, I must say.

]]> By: Burton Newall http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208098 Burton Newall Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:22:23 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-208098 Machine: IBM (Lenovo) Thinkpad T60p, 2.33GHz Core2, 3GB RAM Graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL v5250 OpSys: Windows XP Pro, SP2 Program runs fine, but textures with alpha channels are not sorted properly. This means that you can "see through" walls or other objects to things that are supposed to be behind them. This is a really elementary graphics rendering problem, and a program that introduces a bug like this as a performance improvement has to cause a lot of head-scratching. What were they thinking? Machine: IBM (Lenovo) Thinkpad T60p, 2.33GHz Core2, 3GB RAM
Graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL v5250
OpSys: Windows XP Pro, SP2

Program runs fine, but textures with alpha channels are not sorted properly. This means that you can “see through” walls or other objects to things that are supposed to be behind them.

This is a really elementary graphics rendering problem, and a program that introduces a bug like this as a performance improvement has to cause a lot of head-scratching. What were they thinking?

]]> By: Hein http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-206434 Hein Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:10:42 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-206434 A few seconds after I start to move SecondLife crashes. I've a Medion Radeon X740XL Graphics card. A few seconds after I start to move SecondLife crashes. I’ve a Medion Radeon X740XL Graphics card.

]]> By: Symon Lane http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-202408 Symon Lane Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:48:55 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-202408 Crashes during login Toshiba M1 Intel Pentium M 1600MHz 1.00GB RAM Second Life 1.14.0 Windows XP SP2 (build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: Trident Graphics Card: Blade XP4 OpenGL version: 1.3 Crashes during login
Toshiba M1
Intel Pentium M 1600MHz
1.00GB RAM

Second Life 1.14.0
Windows XP SP2 (build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: Trident
Graphics Card: Blade XP4
OpenGL version: 1.3

]]> By: Linda Brynner http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-202323 Linda Brynner Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:56:02 +0000 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/03/28/1140-known-issues-drivers-vbo-ati-x300x600-notebooks-and-other-woes/#comment-202323 Good point Spencer, Keep 1.13 fully supported until 1.14 is really proven !! 1.14.1 Should resolve the problem for X300/X400 according to Joshua Linden, but it's alway a prey if it really will. So how about keeping 1.14.1 optional for some while. At least give us some time to test it en report if the problems are not resolved so that we can play further with 1.13 for Linden go resolve the issues. Good point Spencer,
Keep 1.13 fully supported until 1.14 is really proven !!
1.14.1 Should resolve the problem for X300/X400 according to Joshua Linden, but it’s alway a prey if it really will.
So how about keeping 1.14.1 optional for some while. At least give us some time to test it en report if the problems are not resolved so that we can play further with 1.13 for Linden go resolve the issues.

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