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The truth is that if they were suddenly becoming rich in no time,

The first item is missing its closing tag.

1. Every object had a manufacturing cost that depends on the resources needed to render it. The cost would be set by and payable to LL.
2. To sell an instance of an object, you would be required to invest some multiple, say 10X, of the manufacturing cost. Again, payable to LL.
3. You can charge others anything you want to buy an instance.
4. If you delete an object before you sell any, you recoup all of your costs from LL.
5. Once an instance of an object has been purchased, the design is frozen. In order to modify it, you must copy it and pay manufacturing costs again. Although it should be possible to embed an instance of one or more objects in another object.
6. If you delete an object that has already been purchased, or if you remove it from sale, you recoup the investment cost from LL, but not the manufacturing cost.
7. If you delete a purchased instance, you get no refund.
8. Anyone who purchases an instance can make a copy, but has to pay the manufacturing costs for the copy.

This would remove the economic advantage of the copybot and would operate somewhere between open source and strict ownership.

You’ve just shot yourself in the foot and proven you don’t read a bloody thing anyone posts.

Look familiar?

“You want Linden Labs to do something - based on their proclamation that CopyBot use is a TOS violation? Don’t make me laugh - wait you already did! do you know WHY I am laughing at that?

No, you don’t - so I am going to tell you and I hope you’re actually paying atention this time: LINDEN LABS CAN DO NOTHING. There - it is that simple. what they CAN do has been done.”

It should - and now it looks like I have to spell it out for you, simply because you refuse to understand what was said (like anyone that thinks the world revolves around them):

LL did the ONLY thing they could do. Period. enter data, end program. No amount of your complaining and no example you could ever give will change that fact. Is this getting through that thick skull into what you call a brain? Linden Lab can do nothing at all aside from useing the Terms of Service - something which does not amount to anything as far as many of the content creators are concerned.

as far as your arguments are concerned they are half-baked travesties of thought - I won’t be responding to you further (unless that is you manage to royally irk me - which is quite possible). I do not argue with those that come to a battle of wits unarmed.

To show you exactly what I mean:

“People who set up pages with jpegs that cannot be copied by right-clicking haven’t enabled some function that enables you to save and copy the entire page, overriding the jpegs. They’ve disabled copying, which is something they can and do do.”

sorry - null and void by sheer idiocy. If there is a work around, the protection is rendered useless. copy the whole page or save it? Ypu’ve got the JPG. Use that dying cluster of neurons you call a brain once in a while.

As far as this is concerned:

“The people responsible haven’t all been removed. Not on your life. I see them. I see them in libsecondlife, which still contains v-5.”

If they’re no longer a major part of the project - they’ve been removed. Simple isn’t it?

And finally:

“Go away and think that by inciting the tekkie wikinista’s “exit clause” (”don’t like it, leave, don’t like reading it, go away”) you can silence criticism and evade critical participation.”

do yourself a favor and don’t respond to me again Prof - you’ve proven that you cannot tell who is who. I’m not a tekkie pal - not by a long shot. I may know a bit, know my way around a computer …. but compared to the scripters and people that make a living doing this? Nope. I just read up on it.

As to the final part of your post - Be thankful I’m not the one in charge of Linden Lab. If I was you’d be gone in a heartbeat, along with anyone else that fails to grasp logic or that fails to see when people are attempting to …… Oh hell, might as well tell you - If I was the one in charge whis issue wouldn’t still be being debated: The grid would be down, all accounts terminated, no refunds and a single e-mail containing the debate sent out to everyone with a closing line:

“Because you felt the need to pick at, rip apart, blast, and otherwise make a mockery of everything we have done - be it something you agreed with or not - you have shown that no one is ready for this. Enjoy.”

Now - I expect you to stay true to what I’ve seen in just two of your posts: You’ll skim this response and make some scathing and witty (both in your own eyes only mind you) response while missing the rest.

That’s alright - it’s just what you do.

Social and legal restraints on behaviour can, and do, moderate what people might otherwise selfishly choose to do.

Nobody can actually stop you doing donuts on your neighbour’s lawn (or your evil twin doing it), but strangely enough most people don’t do it. Why? Either because they believe it’s wrong to do it, or they fear the consequences of laws against trespass and criminal damage.

I don’t know where this mentality that if you can’t physically stop someone from doing something, you should just shrug and say “well we can’t stop them” comes from.

So you can’t stop someone cloning your stuff, or plagiarising it etc. You can be part of a society that chooses to assign moral values to these things. You can tell someone that what they did was wrong, and that the rest of the tribe agrees it was wrong. Even if you can’t stop them doing it, you can make sure there is a clear understanding that Wrong Is Being Done, and there is no (or less) moral justification for it.

So Linden Lab can do something about it. They’re imperfect gods- they can’t change the laws of physics to stop this, but they can say This Is Wrong. When you choose to do something everyone says is wrong, you at least understand that, and your peers will judge you accordingly. Some may agree with your actions, most probably won’t, and that’s how society works.

I could use software to combine my skin and tattoos- something that’s frustrated me for months as I love both and juggling layers is a real pain, but I haven’t. Maybe partly out of fear of being harrassed as a criminal of sorts, but also because I chose to demonstrate some restraint.

That’s pretty much how the imperfect RL works. For my own creations in SL, I would be unhappy to see clone houses up all over the grid- less so if I could at least know that everyone knew I made the original, and that’s something the copybot undermines too. I could rely on the honesty and goodwill of people to support the original creator at least, even if cheap/free knockoffs were available. That’s something Real World brands deal with.

We don’t need perfect code from Linden Lab, we just need a clear message. I think we got that eventually.

dear prokofy. please add to your list of things you don’t understand but feel okay to cite as a “fact”, “how web pages work”. Do you EVER not type what you think ? you just argued against your own point again, but if i tried to explain how, you’d call me teckkie whackjob.

*Their* actions speak louder than *your* words : )

People who set up pages with jpegs that cannot be copied by right-clicking haven’t enabled some function that enables you to save and copy the entire page, overriding the jpegs. They’ve disabled copying, which is something they can and do do.

The people responsible haven’t all been removed. Not on your life. I see them. I see them in libsecondlife, which still contains v-5.

Go away and think that by inciting the tekkie wikinista’s “exit clause” (”don’t like it, leave, don’t like reading it, go away”) you can silence criticism and evade critical participation.