Second Life 1.12.3 release status - now open
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006 at 6:58 AM by: Liana Linden27 Oct: Bandwidth issues have been resolved (see post “Amazon S3 for the Win“). Many thanks to those who reported performance issues with this release. The reports have been aggregated, and developers are actively working on fixes. For those still unable to install or use the Mac client, please see Josh’s forum post for troubleshooting tips and further information.
If you have further issues to report about v. 1.12.3, please use the bug report option in SL or contact Support.
2:55PM PDT: Since the grid reopened, we have received reports of packet loss, teleport failure and other abnormalities in-world. These appear to be caused by heavy traffic. We are working to increase bandwidth and expect this will resolve the issue. More updates to follow.
12:25PM PDT: Second Life 1.12.3 is now open. Welcome back! Your login screen may show a cached message that says the grid status is “offline,” but go ahead and connect. Remember that there will be high traffic as everyone logs back in, so please be patient and give the system time to connect you.
If you haven’t already, you will need to install the latest version of the viewer. It can be downloaded from the login screen, or go to downloads to grab it from the website.
Additional info for Mac users - when you open the client .dmg file you downloaded, you used to be able to run the client directly. This doesn’t work anymore and will crash the client. You are supposed to follow the instructions and drag the file to the Applications folder and run it from there. A fix is in progress for this.
6:55AM SLT: The grid is closed until 12:00PM SLT today, 25 Oct., while this new release is deployed. You will need to upgrade to the newest version to login afterwards. Watch this space for release status updates as needed.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:05 AM
what hapened to the 5 min warning nothing no warning whos fault was it this time
October 25th, 2006 at 7:05 AM
what exactly is the profiles feature that won’t be in this release? is it something that allows inworld profiles to be viewed outside? how is it used?
October 25th, 2006 at 7:07 AM
When will the new version be available for download from the website? We may as well load it
wile waiting for the grid to return, but the download page still shows the old version.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:08 AM
The new version will be available when they bring the grid back up. There’s always a chance during this five hour shutdown that they will discover something that needs to be changed (probably a pretty good chance), so I wouldn’t trust anything available before the work is done anyway.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:09 AM
Ok, was nothing learned when you guys unceremoniously yanked the plug on your residents last week?
There was apparently only a single message about the system coming down in a little while, then nothing, then you suddenly booted everyone. What happened to the promises of giving your residents a count down or at least a 2 minute warning?
A little common courtesy in the form of automated warnings (15 minutes, 10, 5, 1) would go a long way towards making shutdowns nice and smooth for the residents you serve. It’s not like such a set of warnings is any great burden to perform.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:09 AM
danielleeber, the new client is typically posted just prior to reopening… reason being, it allows them to tweak for issues they discover during the rollout process.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:11 AM
Mew! =^.^=
October 25th, 2006 at 7:13 AM
danielleeber Says:
“When will the new version be available for download from the website? We may as well load it
wile waiting for the grid to return, but the download page still shows the old version.”
———-
I ususally just wait til the grid is up, then the client will do it’s “there is a new version available, would you like to download it now?” speil. Ususally takes less than a minute on a broadband connection, so it’s hardly something I ever really think about.
Good luck to Linden Labs on this update.. I personally am hoping for a smooth trip over this “sim boundary”. I had 5 minutes warning, was able to rename my work, take it all up into inventory, and even locate my avatar in a “good rezzing place”, and log off (without crashing for once)… So.. fingers crossed..
October 25th, 2006 at 7:15 AM
STILL HAVE THE QUESTION , WILL I GET MY STUFF BACK THAT I REPORTED 2 DAYS AGO FOR MY WEDDING TOMORROW ????? YOUR SERVER , STUFF I BUY WITH L$’S , ON LINDEN LABS SERVER MEANING THEY ARE RESPONIBLE TO REPLACE THESE ITEMS .. I HAVE SENT A LIST OF WHAT I LOSTED AND I CLEAR MY CACHE EVERY TIME I LOG OUT . TODAY I WENT TO INVENTORY LOOKING AND NOTHING WAS THERE
.. WEDDING TOMORROW AND NEED MY STUFF JEEZ THAT ISNT’ MUCH TO ASKED FOR YOU KNOW LINDEN LABS .. THE OTHER STUFF I LOSTED FROM THE LAST UPDATE I NEVER GOT EITHER BUT OH WELL .. BUT DID I MENTION I REALLY DO NEED THE STUFF I LOSTED 2 DAYS AGO PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME BACK MY ITEMS I DONT’ CARE IF LINDEN LABS HAS TO BUY IT AGAIN FOR IT WAS ON THEIR SERVER WHEN I LOSTED THEM .. I WANT MY STUFF
October 25th, 2006 at 7:18 AM
^^^
who said updates were boring?… comedy gold right there
October 25th, 2006 at 7:19 AM
Sorry Muerte Valencia but, Linden Labs is not responsible for any Lost data, including your items, your Linden and all that crap… saw it somewhere in the TOS or something like that… so good luck getting them back especially when you use all CAPS to say it…
October 25th, 2006 at 7:20 AM
Muerte:
Have you contacted the people you bought the stuff from? Any business worth buying from will work with you. I previously had to contact LL about my own missing inventory, and I learned they won’t do anything about it. You can clear your cache (which you have done) and hope it shows up again, wait until their automated process cleans up sims and see if it *might* send the items back to your lost and found (extreme long shot there), or talk to the merchants. That’s the only option that has a prayer of working.
I am sorry about your missing items, and I hope it won’t cause too much trouble with your wedding. Congratulations, also.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:21 AM
Tips for Muerte Valencia:
1. Switch to Decaf.
2. Turn off your CAPS LOCK key.
3. Call technical support, you’re more likely to get an answer.
4. Learn what a period is and use it.
5. Stop stressing so much over your virtual wedding or you may ‘LOSTED’ your mind.
Looks like it might be time to create a virtual version of “Bridezillas”.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:21 AM
I read an announcement the other day about the servers having located the lost items and then returned them to the people who bought them. If you’re having trouble remembering what is where, I recommend using your account’s transactions history to see what you’ve bought and when; then print it out (preferably printing out the XLS file) and start comparing the list of items you’ve bought with your inventory. I think your items should be there.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:26 AM
Some of us are not quite on broadband. I connect via a satellite dish because where I
live I don’t even have a land telephone line, let alone cable access. For me and for
slower DSL lines the download takes 10-15 min. If I am told “the new software will
be available only after the grid has been restarted”, then fine, I’ll have to wait. But
like I said, it’s something to do while waiting, besides reading the blog and forums
October 25th, 2006 at 7:37 AM
The biggest fix was already done during the last days. The lag and packet loss was only really bad after we hit the magic number of accounts, during the last days things ran very smooth again. I also noticed that some linksets affected by prim drift seem to be “repaired” now, meaning they don’t move over night anymore; wonder if a server-side change fixed this? Anyway, if the new version works smoothly too I’m (almost) happy.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:38 AM
Hey Lindens!
Congratulations on all the fine work you are doing. God it’s been well over a week since the infamous “Run Brent Run!” outage (AKA the Hasselhoff downtime) and I have been able to build loads, organise my wedding, win BIG at SLingo and organise my inventory and library!
This time we got a good warning (at least 10 mins) and I anticipate no problem when I log back in. Also, youve managed to dovetail the downtime for when my Gorean Alt is ‘DEAD’ so I’ll be alive and well when I return. Nadu!
Hip, hip hooray!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:41 AM
Meurte,
All items in SL are “volitile data”. they exist only as electrical impulses… and are stored as magnetic fluctuations on media that is essentially no more complex than iron filings stuck to scotch tape. As such, this data.. all data, is volitile.. on volitile media. The dofware used to manage that data is far from perfect.. as is the media on which that data is stored. Put simply, it’s very possible that your stuff is simply.. gone.
My advice is to suck it up, take your finger off shift, and get a grip.
Here are some things that you can do, to alleviate the problem.
1. Contact the original sellers of the merchandise. Check your transaction history on the Secondlife website, to get the names and dates of your transactions. Take note of the transaction ID’s.. Contact the seller, verifying with them that you did indeed purchase these items. If the items are no-transfer.. odds are that the maker will hapilly provide you with replacements. These bugs have hit everyone, and they know it. Losing a little bit of income is prefferable to losing a customer.
2. Skip a pizza and have mac and cheese for a night, dig into your pocket, and drop $20US on lindens, and go re-buy everything that you can’t get replaced.
3. You CAN indeed wait on the “return” procedure that was initiated recently.. but they have stated that this process will take DAYS and WEEKS.. not hours and minutes. But “waiting” means not freaking out every 4 hours and posting in all caps (screaming) for attention.
I personally have given up hope of seeing my (thankfully few) missing items returned.. The manufacturer of my collar (AMETHYST ROSENCRANS - the best retailer I know) dropped a replacement on me without my asking, AND my mistress purchased a replacement.. so I now have a backup collar… should this ever happen again. I reuploaded the texture I needed, and the other missing items.. well.. I have the parts needed to remake them, or I can just live without them.
This basically just reenforces the fact that this is a digital world.. and nothing is truly “permanent”. We are all transients living in a transient world. If you really want to hang on to something.. make copies.. or buy copies.
In the end.. if you are truly tapped out of lindens, can’t scratch up the USD to make this happen, and can’t get any of the creators to set you back up.. there are PLENTY of freebie items out there chairs and whatnot..
But also consider this.. and a lot of people in SL have had weddings, and now have this big pile of “wedding stuff” in their inventories. A well placed post in “resident Answers” asking for help.. instead of yelling at linden labs.. could really go a long way to making your day work out.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:42 AM
Ok linden labs, tell me what seems incorrect about this: Second Life Offline
The Second Life grid and portions of the Second Life web site are currently down due to unplanned circumstances. We appreciate your patience and we will re-open the grid as soon as possible.
Latest Status Message:
October 25, 2006, 7:00 am Second Life is currently down for a scheduled update. The grid will be closed from 7:00 AM PDT/SLT to 12:00 PM PDT/SLT, and you will need to upgrade to the newest version to login afterwards.
This grid isnt down due to unplanned circumstances, if your making a scheduled update. You just contradicted yourself. And as far as clearing the inventory search bar, noone seems happy with that little decision. Take it off please, I to have to do that numerous times a day, and that will just get irritating.
ISSUES….FIX THEM
Stop with the making minor adjustments, fix the REAL problems. Packet loss, Missing Images, Bandwith issues, Missing Inventory. I Reported that an important item from my inventory went missing. Clearing my cache did nothing. I had my item rezzed, picked it up and relogged from lag. and then, miraculously, it was gone. I asked to either have my item found, or to be reimbursed the 750 lindens i spent to repurchase the item. I contacted live help saturday, and i waited over 2 hours before ANYONE responded.
I, and I’m sure most of the other sl residents are getting a tad bit annoyed at all the minor updates. How about instead of doing 3 miniscule updates every 2 days…you go back to a once a month, WELL TESTED update. Then it wouldnt seem like the lindens would have their head’s up their butts.
Yes, I know it may seem that I’m ranting, but as a resident of SL, i think that I have a right to voice my opinion. So Linden Labs…cmon, get your priorities straight, whats more important? An update thats gonna add a shiney new button that only works half the time? Or an update that will fix most of the flaws that have arisen from previous updates. You cant fix a broken update with another broken update. Just take your time on an update that will solve most of the problems, and fix things. I mean, in the past, like around 1.10.2 there werent this many problems. After you started the bi weekly and rolling updates, it seems like you need 5 more patches to fix the previous patch, and another five updates to fix each of those five updates, and so on and so forth.
Linden Labs, even though you, or your staff or volunteers may never read this, just know that there arent many happy residents anymore.
Thank you for taking your time to read through my rantings and nagging, whoever is reading…I’m done, for now.
Sincerely,
A Ticked off Resident
Adamant Wolf
October 25th, 2006 at 7:44 AM
(Boss Melnitz Says:
Tips for Muerte Valencia:
1. Switch to Decaf.
2. Turn off your CAPS LOCK key.
3. Call technical support, you’re more likely to get an answer.
4. Learn what a period is and use it.
5. Stop stressing so much over your virtual wedding or you may ‘LOSTED’ your mind.
Looks like it might be time to create a virtual version of “Bridezillas”. )
hahahaha too funny!!! Good Luck Linden Labs!! (omg thank you Boss I needed my Morning Laugh
October 25th, 2006 at 7:47 AM
Muerte Valencia please get a real life!
I guess they call it WeddingStress hahaha Damn some people are funny..
Linden`s Great Job!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:49 AM
How many times can we say wait til theyve finished in one board guys?
Good look with the upgrade Lindens, our thoughts are with you for the next few hours…then we’ll all be hoping that Muerte’s wedding goes according to plan and she gets the superglue off of her shift button…
In the meantime though, I have one request:
As we have hit the magic number mark now, and we all (presumably) have a number on our record somewhere, can you get the system to rez by age
Oldest first of course…I want some advantages to being old here…
ps on the subject of us all having numbers…how about starting an SL lottery…
pps do SL years work like dog years now? I have been here for 2 RL years but if you count the number of upgrades does this give me my SL age? I must be close to graduating soon… :-9
October 25th, 2006 at 7:58 AM
I am seriously LOL. Virtual Bridezillas :))))
October 25th, 2006 at 7:59 AM
Meurte : did you check your trash and/or Lost and Found folder? I have lost things and they turned up in there.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:01 AM
Yeah i lost a load of stuff when it got reternd to me it tends to just disapear lol
October 25th, 2006 at 8:04 AM
You seriously have weddings on here?
October 25th, 2006 at 8:05 AM
If i wanted to discus things like my ideas for making the base shape better for Furrys were would i go to do that befor putting it on the fetured voting section
October 25th, 2006 at 8:07 AM
Boss - you slay me.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:07 AM
Winter, your my hero. I am very surprised at how many people read and supplied an awnser for Muerte.
My tip. Many times, and I have even tested this with both ways of doing it, if you use good grammer (’Losted’? How old are you?) and use good puncuation(Which includes only use caps when you need them.) you will get a kind awnser. If you ask the question profesionally, you will get a profesional awnser.
And about the wedding. Times can be changed. Rescedual, explain the situation to the hoster(if you have one) and Im sure they will help you.
Worse come to wose, you still have your First Life. You still have it, right? RIGHT?
October 25th, 2006 at 8:12 AM
Muerte, you are likely the victim of a rollback. If you had these items rez’d and there was a sim crash, and they were no-copy, then they do not exist anymore.
As the more polite have suggested, get your transaction records from the website, and contact the vender. Any reputable vender will replace the items for you.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:13 AM
For the last two updates, I’ve been asking about the “Set Home” bug, (SL-23593: Members of a group cannot set their home location when land is only set to a group and not deeded), and the answer I get is basically, “We’re working on it” or “I think it will be in the next update”.
I realize this bug isn’t exactly a ’show stopper’ but since I rent out skyboxes in-world, I get asked daily, and sometimes multiple times daily, about not being able to set Home Location.
Does ANYONE know if this particular bug is being addressed, or is it still on the back burner?
And are there any other landlords out there being innundated with this question like I am?
October 25th, 2006 at 8:14 AM
Has anybody here been invited to this WEDDING? I haven’t. Lindens please fix this or I may cancel my free account and you’ll be left with only 999,999 which will really put a crimp on that whole moon thing that’s goin on - I mean what is up with that? I was out with this lady last night and of course was barely rezzing (the moon was just a fuzzy white ball up in the sky), so I’m like “that’s a romantic moon, eh?” (cause I’m tryin to put the moves on her ya know) and she’s all, “Is that what that is? I thought it was some kinda slingo chip or somethin.” Anyways, that put a damper on the whole evening cause I’m thinkin, man I thought this lady was hot, but she don’t know beans about slingo. Will this new update contain a slingo tutorial? Oh, and I want to report a missing image sighting. This other lady I was cammin on real hard, who had one hair stickin up outta her bald head, had missing image panties on. PLEASE FIX THIS (note use of caps for emphasis) ASAP!
October 25th, 2006 at 8:15 AM
Hey Lindens…way to go on the home page.. putting “The Grid Is Down” right on the front page will be a bonus for those who don’t read the blog.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:15 AM
danielleeber Says: Some of us are not quite on broadband.
zOMG!! i couldn’t imagine playing SL on less than a 5/1 connection. Poor thing, you must wait ages every time you teleport somewhere…
/me offers hugz….
October 25th, 2006 at 8:16 AM
Well,
Yes, lag and missing texture are some awful problems.
Not talking about other misfunctions or latest spree of downtimeS…
Or updates always done in the middle of the day for Europe.
The point is most of us are paying to play.
And obviously, we’re all a bit hooked.
I guess Linden Labs knows this.
So they barely answer to any moaning comment, neither seem to be trying to adress big issues, or communicate over it.
Because it seems that their only goals were to reach the million user (how many of them really playing the game, by the way?) and maybe doing a bit of money along the way, with, yes, a great idea and game.
Because they know we’ll continue to pay for our accounts, our land tiers, and spend money in the game, whatever happens. So it seems that, really, they don’t care…
It would cost money to buy new servers, or whatever would be needed to fix all this crap.
Instead we had a blog post telling us “how to rebake texture”…
Because opening a blog where people could complain costs less, of course.
A blog where you could find, too, people nice enough not to complain and willing to pay for some misfunctionnal product, and moreover thinking that we and the Linden management are all part of some family (!), and therefore should pay AND help.
Because, yes, I’m talking about Linden management, here, not the programmers, or network admins, and so on…
So what could we do instead of complaining in a blog, without seeing any sign of concern or compensation from the Linden Management ?
Stop playing ? It would be good, but, as I said, most of us are a bit hooked, by now. That would be like commit suicide in RL… And anyway the number of users would stay the same, at least for Linden to sell it, as it is now, with missing textures and lag.
Stop paying for anything ? Like not buying anything in game for one month ? That would be better, some equivalent of a strike in RL… But if a large part of users would loose money, the Linden labs won’t barely lose some. Still cashing the land tiers and accounts fees.
I’m sure that there should be a better solution, really.
Call it customer care, call it whatever.
What’s sure is that something is to be done, soon.
Good luck with this update anyway…
October 25th, 2006 at 8:16 AM
Hey Lindens…way to go on the home page.. putting “The Grid Is Down” right on the front page will be a bonus for those who don’t read the blog and anyone needing a quick notice.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:27 AM
well done in the blog guys…….. is really helpful. i was lookin for how to download the newest version and the blog answeres all my questions……………….well done guys!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 8:30 AM
I’m new to SL, are these downtimes common? Or is it due to people like me jumping on the bandwagon and bogging the servers down??
October 25th, 2006 at 8:42 AM
Another good reason to ONLY BUY COPY ITEMS
I always buy items this way becasue most of the time, I DO NOT KNOW an item is missing. I use THINC’s Inventory Boxes and keep backups in there and I cant even count the number of times I have items in there that are no longer in my inventory.
The only way I know of protecting myself is to buy Copy/No transfer items and Be firm about it. IF creators dont create their items in this manner then I do not need them. I have wanted to play Spades here in world for some time and since the creator wouldnt sell me a copy item, I had to spend RL dolalrs to hire a programmer to come to SL to make me it. It may cost alot more but I will NEVER loose it
At one point all nice homes were sold as no copy and alon came some builders making COPY MOD homes, AS more and more people started seeing the light alot of builders changed to making COPY Homes. THe REzz systems really increased the number of builders who now thankfully make their homes COPY/MOD NO TRANS.
Ok Im ranting now, LOL
October 25th, 2006 at 8:43 AM
The thing I most want is full curser you in first person…
The camera is so clumsy at times and being able to use an item in mouse look will make alot of things easier…
Also the lag needs to be sorted out, but that is alot to ask, I primarily use first person view, it makes the world feel more real, it would be nice to to have to keep changing perspective all the time…
October 25th, 2006 at 8:46 AM
LOL@Nad Gough! Moon Rez FTW!
When they say it’s down from “7am - 12pm”, that means “morning until around midnight”, right? As in “dont bother trying to log on for at least 16 hours”. This whole AM/PM stuff still confuses me…
October 25th, 2006 at 8:46 AM
Same As Above, Damn You Stephen, Be Slower,
And Anyway,
When Will The Grid Be Back Up In English Time?
I’m Hopeless At Translating The Times
October 25th, 2006 at 8:50 AM
It seems to me that Muerte Valencia is always spazzing about sometihng. I say good luck for this update, and may there be less lag for us all.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:51 AM
Aki: Stop playing ? It would be good, but, as I said, most of us are a bit hooked, by now. That would be like commit suicide in RL…
No…actually it wouldn’t. The difference being that if you committed suicide in RL, you would, I dunno, be dead or something…
October 25th, 2006 at 8:52 AM
Let’s hope for a quick and well working update without too many problems.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:54 AM
I really enjoyed the picture that was on the website when I came online to check the status of the upadate. Who came up with the gorilla theme? (*they really are banging away ya know*) Any ways it made me laugh. Keep up the good work Lindens, and here’s to hoping this is a fast and speedy update. Catch you all in world.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:54 AM
I’ll 2nd the props for the changes to the main page - ty! Having it (or something smaller) on the header graphic for all secondlife.com pages might be good, too.
Also, having an in-game status display, like maybe another icon along with the no-fly/no-build ones, for when you have to disable grid logins would be nice, too. Really hate logging out for a second and not being able to get back in.
Last, I know it’s planned downtime but a blog update every once-in-a-while, even just a “still on target” update, would be nice.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:55 AM
Lookforward to this update - just a thought what about putting up a lock on the front page so people can figure out what time SL is running at in their local time * mental note - post on forum *
PS. Your SL girlfriend is really a man.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:01 AM
Love the “Banging on it” graphic and the reference to “2001″! Very clever.
Your team works so hard to make all of this possible. It’s great to see that you can keep a sense of humour through all the difficulties.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:01 AM
Dreams:
Who else out there is dreaming as [your] avi in RL?
I am flying and meeting others.
The odd thing being I can “hear” hundreds of others talking as in SL … but can grasp all the conversations at the same time, all while zipping around.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:01 AM
Does anyone know how much longer its going to be until the system is up and running again? I am on GMT so I am guessing there is a time delay as it is now 17.00 GMT and still no system up and running.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:07 AM
shoot ill be at work when the grid goes up /cry.
i woke up this morning to my roomate taking a picture of me with my laptop in my lap, my hand on the mouse, and my headset on. apparently i fell asleep in the chair playing sl :-p
October 25th, 2006 at 9:08 AM
Will the update be automatic or do we need to visit here to get it?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:08 AM
@Nad: Thanks for making me smile
@Aki: I believe that a lot of new hardware has been added over the last days… my sim was almost breaking down when we first had 13k+ residents online every evening, now it runs like a charm again. LL handled the recent onrush really well.
Besides, I just read a post in the Linden Answers section of the forums:
“We believe the cases of getting stuck in missing image should be fixed after today’s release.
There are still a couple of ways to get ‘missing image’ on your avatar, but these should fix themselves when they happen after few moments.”
Link: http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=145358
Wonder why those good news didn’t make it into the features lists of the previous 2 blog entries?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:08 AM
Just cuz not many people are doing it…
(No sarcasm or retorts at other posters.
Just sincere applause.)
Because everyone needs to know their efforts are emaningful to someone.
*stands up and applauds the Lindens for their hard work*
October 25th, 2006 at 9:13 AM
I just had a thought - we have the grid status now, but what’s not there is whether logins are allowed or not. Might wanna add that.
and oh yeah: text on a prim! (lol)
October 25th, 2006 at 9:18 AM
Its funny to see people cut down others second life.
I work very hard in my second life and in my real life with over 40+ hours a week job in real life If im not with my partner in real life im either at work or in sl.
For some people second life is an escape for them , A place to do things they cant do in real life.
Example I cant build weapons and sell them well not legaly anyway.
But id bet this wedding of thers is going to be special and something that happens to matter to them a great deal.
I honestly hope that something you care a great deal for is ruined as well in second life and in your real life too.
Just a vent towards those that think its funny.
As for getting things fixed your wasteing your time here .
The lindens fix what ever they want when ever they want and if you dont like it to bad.
They have turned from hello how may I help you to oh well we have X amount of paying customers anyway so if we lost them as a customer its not a big deal anyway lol.
otherwise they would be making a better effort to resolve these things that have been broken for ages now.
Example = Cant cross sims even if im walking without falling into the ground and walking almost 75% of the sim before I bounce back to the start again.
A SMART cache system that remembers when and how often textures are used on your client to keep them in cache and reload them faster and take HUGE AMOUNTS of strain off of the servers.
The grey avatars and textures have been around for ages .
Now missing image lol.
I wonder what will be next.
But gues what we can be sure that there will be a NEW feature in each release :).
Add more junk but dont fix the others.
Its gotten very old to me and I will just dump the game if things keep up like this.
It gives me headaches.
I gues I could just take the advice and RELOG every five mins and help add to that server load :).
October 25th, 2006 at 9:20 AM
Muerte Valencia :
good luck on that. Linden Lab wiped out my whole account couldnt retrive anything in 3 months worth of inventory and all I got compensated for was a measly 75 USD. Pretty pathetic since I have transactions proving in Sept alone I put in $112 and spent it all! Best thing to do is call and demand and hound.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:20 AM
@Nad
*points and Laughs heartily at the seemingly testosterone loaded young male who obviously failed English class in high school (if he’s made it that far)*
*thinks Nad needs to go out and get a real girlfriend (or human companion at least) and learn how things in real life work*
*also thinks Nad need to be moved to the pre-teen grid*
(Yes, this is my pointed post at all those players who are soooo disgruntled right now.)
*sits back and waits for fireworks*
Hmmm…wonder if we have anymore Pringles(tm)?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:25 AM
Harry Oldbull Says:
“Dreams:
Who else out there is dreaming as [your] avi in RL?
I am flying and meeting others.
The odd thing being I can “hear” hundreds of others talking as in SL … but can grasp all the conversations at the same time, all while zipping around.”
ummmm Harry, I don’t know how to say this without being blunt, so I will be… if you are in any way serious about that post, and for the sake of everyone in the non-cyber world you hold dear to you, seek therapy… FAST
lol
October 25th, 2006 at 9:26 AM
I remember that, about a month ago, after the problematic update, some avatars didn’t show up as grey avatars but as SKELETONS (!) and then everything else started appearing on them - very slowly, mind you. What was that? Are these the components of avatars in SL?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:28 AM
ISHTARA!! Go on .. be a devil … be HAPPY
October 25th, 2006 at 9:28 AM
Aki, Everyone could drop their premium account for a month. That would get their attention.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:30 AM
Way off topic here…Ariana, you just reminded me of a dream I had last night!
*commence dreamy effect now*
I worked at LL and was making avatar meshes! It was fun. I had a complete understanding of all the 3D modelling progs I have (but have no clue how to use in waking life). Wheee!
*end dreamy effect*
Now if I could just learn in real life…
Howlz,
Lacy
October 25th, 2006 at 9:34 AM
Maybe you can help me understand….
Why do people who are having issues in game come here to gripe? do you think that posting for the “world” to see will get LL to fix it faster? I help Run land in game that is about 1/4th of a sim. and these glitches make it hard for my L$ to go where i need it to because im afraid that spending it will result just before an attack or massive down time. i don’t want to plan Events to help the Traffic for the same reasons. Yes i want them to fix the current bugs before they add more new stuff.. will i threaten to leave.. no when the game runs well i love it and when it does not * shrugs* i will press on
Thank you LL, Thank You for doing what you do and for trying to fix what you can.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:34 AM
Harry Oldbull Says:
“Dreams:
Who else out there is dreaming as [your] avi in RL?
I am flying and meeting others.
The odd thing being I can “hear” hundreds of others talking as in SL … but can grasp all the conversations at the same time, all while zipping around.”
Don’t worry hun. I’ve had that same type of dream last night. Tis natural if you are putting a lot of time in at SL. Do consider taking a little more time out of SL and spending more in RL, though. After that, you will be back to dreaming about your sweet lovable RL.
**HUGS**
October 25th, 2006 at 9:35 AM
I can relate ! rofl. Since I became engaged and mah fiancee and I decided to “build” our own wedding chapel- I have been LIVING
October 25th, 2006 at 9:38 AM
Hey, just wondering when the servers will be finished. i know it says 12pm but where? i live in the uk so i dont know when they will be finished, the time @ the moment is 5:38pm
cheerz,
Jake
October 25th, 2006 at 9:39 AM
…cont. …in sl. Id freak if we lost all our stuff : )- its become more important than bathing in rl. Also i woke up to a clear RL Autumn morning and complimented GOD on his textures. (Must have his own server too). Im going to need little pink and red silk pillows to know what the hell to do in RL if this goes on….and ive had my share of “SL dreams ” lately lmao.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:41 AM
SL dreams, RL prim counting, lag at the RL traffic lights…
gotta love it!
Howlz,
Lacy
October 25th, 2006 at 9:41 AM
Just when I think I’m getting way too involved in SL I read some of these posts and realize I’m still sane LOL. I don’t know what to say other than ROFLMAO…..
Speaking of which, I can’t wait till we are up and running again so I can shop some more. I love it!! I can’t get enough of it!! Please….I need more SL NOW!!!!
.
Oh crap…maybe I am one of those people.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:41 AM
@Lacy: I assume Nad’s post was purely ironic
October 25th, 2006 at 9:42 AM
Woot! its that blogging time again!!
Ty Linden’s on the front page cant miss that one!
October 25th, 2006 at 9:44 AM
Developing in a world where the data can be ommited from the server at any time isn’t acceptable for a person that’s willing to spend hours of their RL developing within SL. An offline inventory would surely be a worthwhile addition. Constructive crit I hope.
… and lol jinc. GOD has very nice textures indeed, I also admire his physics engine.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:46 AM
“Lacy Musketeer Says: @Nad *points and Laughs heartily”
I am glad I was able to make you laugh, as that was my intention. I sincerely appreciate your evaluation of my testosterone levels, my doctor has been concerned with my PSA.
You may not realize this, but there are many folks on SL who might not have passed high school English, unless they took English as an elective. You see *patiently explaining*, SL is a world wide affair!
As a father of 3 adults and a grandfather to 2, I have an idea of how things “work” and it would be inappropriate for me to be moved to the teen grid (I am unaware of a pre-teen grid).
The way things “work” best, as far as I have discovered in my life thus far, is through kindness. It helps to have a sense of humor also. Thank you for taking the time to make me feel small and unimportant. *warm (patronizing) smile*. I know I feel better now.
BTW - I won’t ask you out again until you learn somethin about slingo.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:47 AM
I allready picked up some rumors about people starting a “Missing Image” Clothing line.
Would be fun.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:50 AM
I often wonder what the responses would look like if they were JUST limited to paying players and not from FREE or basic ones?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:51 AM
I know i will get rapped in the mouth for this but please excuse a newbie. I was trying to drag and drop an item from my inventory to my land and nothing gets dropped. Some items do and some items don’t show up. What am I doing wrong? where is the proper place to ask these questions? Any help is appreciated.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:51 AM
Lacking in variation Jefferey
October 25th, 2006 at 9:53 AM
@jefferey Heart Says:
“I often wonder what the responses would look like if they were JUST limited to paying players and not from FREE or basic ones?”
Prolly like the United States Congress.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:54 AM
jefferey: I wonder the same.
Fumando: put the blame on me. Actually, what I did was comment that, if some cheeky RL fashion designer got wind of SL and its lag and rez problems, we’d see white skin-tight T-shirts, pants and long skirts (perhaps hobble skirts) with “MISSING IMAGE” on them… On the streets. In RL. Wouldn’t it be like waking up to an SL nightmare?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:56 AM
OMG i would die of laughter and then walk up and say ” hey you know your missing Images right?”
October 25th, 2006 at 9:58 AM
I sat on a couch in SL …a friend from Australia on my left, a German couple,2 people from opposite ends of the US some nude noob flying baldly overhead with a shoebox on his head as we all watched “Shrek 2″ on a bigscreen- while alternating free skype calls. If this sh*t never broke down I’d feel guilty. : )
October 25th, 2006 at 9:59 AM
@Fumando
Boneflower has a complete “missing image” line: clothes, skin, eyes. Well done, and great fun.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:02 AM
One thing I found is that the preview grid acts asif my account is born yet!
Can you upgrade this testing server! I mean for now and next time, PLEASE!
@ danielleeber - me too I can’t phone, I tried my mobile and there is no response, absolutely this tone: The number you have called is engaged please press 5 - or was it 9 oh well it was broken up anyway, I don’t live urban nor desert, but I live in England with only freeview and it costs to much for a phone! I won’t pay linden lab anything because of all this non-quality twirly-wirly updates, in fact most lindens are sipping cups of coffee, meanwhile the streches of code are mostly .xml of .ext for the .exe LOL. If I was funded I could make a VRML world 10 times as great and one server stored a 5 terrabyte server… For God Sake in LSL code it’s // and xml // but bas is ‘. You need to spend a few months offline and rebuild your server, and PS .php is crap as all the time as I type this away, I am actually losing my screen. Now and then a refresh but… Never Mind, btw my brother matt Warren is apparently ‘underage’ and has contacted LL and got through but his account is not through yet OMG I think LL need to rename second life to The Life that kills you!…
October 25th, 2006 at 10:06 AM
@Nad
I am most impressed that your reply sounded much more educated.
I believe I feel a new respect for the players behind the av’s now.
Now I am wondering why your earlier post looked like it was written by an angry 12 year old?
Sense of humour…yes, I have one. I’m glad I chose you to use it on, as I was not expecting such an enjoyable conversation.
*chuckles* I didn’t make you feel small and unimportant. That was all you.
One thing I’ve learned…sometimes you have to deliberately offend someone to find a friend (though I dare not refer to us as friends yet).
It’s nice find some brains behind all the typing once in a while, considering the influx of individuals who prefer “netspeak”. I SO rarely get this kind of conversation, even in my own sim…*grab leech more more more*
*giggles madly*
There is no pre-teen grid yet…and there better NOT be for a looong while. ALTHOUGH…my 7 year old has been helping me build and he is learning a great deal about geometry…and has had some impressive insight into prim manipulation.
Yay for patronizing smiles!
I’m glad I did not sincerely offend you(I hope), however. But I’m still glad I picked on you!
Slingo…hmmm…dun’t know a thing about it. You’re free to teach me if you want.
Asking out…nah thanks. I’m married…we are the proud manufacturers of the aforementioned 7 year old…having a kid has taught me several things, one of which is…DON’T breed unless you want to raise an individual who is more stubborn than you AND your husband combined…oi.
I guess that’s all…I’m sure I’ll think of more later, as I always do.
I daresay I anticipate hearing from you again, Nad.
Howlz,
Lacy
October 25th, 2006 at 10:07 AM
Ok, I was bored, and after reading all these posts, would like to offer some solutions that i know of…
1) To the people complaining about the short notice on updates: First of all, you people must turn your brains off while logging on, because LL always posts their intentions of an update as a msg of the day the day prior to, and on the day the update is done, which is always on a Wednesday, while you are logging into the game.
2)If the game goes down on any other day except Wed., it more than likely is due to grid attacks initiated by one of the residents, who are bored, stupid, or just plain childish, or a combination of the three. LL has no control over MORONS! They cant very well give much notice if the entire grid is covered by red toruses, or obscene pics of “tubgirl”.Personally, i’m glad to see them close the grid down fast on those occasions, as it means they will fix the problem that much faster.
3)To the people missing inventory items: as someone who has also lost inv. items, i feel your pain, I lost my male genetalia over 3 updates ago, reported it missing to LL, then sent an i.m. to the creator of the item. The creator was very courteous, and replaced the item after checking her records to see that I had actually purchased it from her, only asking that if LL were to find it and return it to me, that I would send it back to her. Still no word from LL on that.
4) To those of you just complaining out of boredom…GO OUTSIDE, or do some housework,yardwork, etc…. You know, R.L. stuff, lol !
October 25th, 2006 at 10:08 AM
You Lindens have done great since that string of attacks the last few weeks. Kudos on that. I just have one suggestion: perhaps, in the near future, you could make it so that you can choose whether or not people can “stalk” you on the map. I have lots of friends on SL, and they’re all great people, but sometimes I just want to be left alone, you know? Haha. Thank you, Lindens! We all
October 25th, 2006 at 10:09 AM
Mychelle Foley Says:
“Why do people who are having issues in game come here to gripe? do you think that posting for the “world” to see will get LL to fix it faster?”
———-
Linden Labs recently removed some of the more “freeform” forums from the official “Second Life” forums. At the same time, they rolled out this “Blog”. LL has taken to NOT posting all of it’s updates and announcements on the forums.. but in fact.. here. And on the forums, there is no comment option on “announcement” posts.
People with problems.. like Muerte,, who is obviously quite upset… even when they try everything they can think of to address their issues, they can face a brick wall. They try live help, contact support, file bug reports, and even post in Linden Answers.. unfortunately Linden Labs is fairly “corporate” of late, in terms of it’s response to individual problems.
“Venting” on the blog or forums, is the last recourse ususally.
———-
“I help Run land in game that is about 1/4th of a sim. and these glitches make it hard for my L$ to go where i need it to because im afraid that spending it will result just before an attack or massive down time. i don’t want to plan Events to help the Traffic for the same reasons.
———-
Eventually you have to just start to live with it.. like people in places like Israel or England (well back in the 80’s at least)… terrorist bombs go off randomly, they will kill random people at random intervals, without warning. there’s nothing you can do to protect yourself from the terrorists.. you just eventually have to put down the plastic wrap and duct tape, and hang the sense of it.. and live for today.
Plan your events, increase your traffic.. build your rich content with “hope”. It’s true that things may not always work out as planned.. put a contingency plan in place.. (If SL is unavailable, have a plan in place for rescheduling the event)… but you have to live, and plan..
But like the Boy Scouts.. or MacGyver.. BE PREPARED to deal with things, when plans go astray. Content in SL is volitile, and regardless of what LL may label it, we don’t OWN anything here, aside from intellectual property rights. With no reliable way to “back up” our “digital junk”… we just gotta roll with the punches.
Most of surfing is spent paddling, wiping out, and couching up water… but you do it for those few fleeting minutes of riding on top of the waves.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:09 AM
OH!
I forgot to leave Nad with my usual emote for people I kinda sorta maybe a tenny bit like…
*pouncetacklehugslurpsyourfacealloverandwagstail*
howlz,
Lacy
October 25th, 2006 at 10:10 AM
Got this today and thought i’d share it here for all the SL’ers who are watching the blog
oh. .have some kleenex handy - it’s a tear jerker.
http://www.teachermovie.com/.
puppy hugs to the Lindens who are working hard….
Leaves a paw print and pads off to do another load of laundry.. tail waggin
October 25th, 2006 at 10:10 AM
Whenever the grid goes down i finally realize how addicted i am… its the only time i actually get some work done… lol
Thanks to all the Lindens help keeping second life alive and well!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:14 AM
@Lacy
“I daresay I anticipate hearing from you again, Nad.”
No offense taken, self-depreciating humor is my forte. You can’t be held responsible for me being very good at it. *grin*
Peace, Love, and Slingo,
Nad
October 25th, 2006 at 10:22 AM
@Nad
awww….does that mean no more fun conversation?
Bummer.
*goes off and pouts*
pouting,
Lacy
October 25th, 2006 at 10:23 AM
Ishtara, in contrast to your experience, I have had increasingly bad packet loss over the last few days!
I was putting my hopes in the update to somehow clear things out and fix it!
coco
October 25th, 2006 at 10:23 AM
Lacy… for someone so concerned with education, you are pretty obtuse.
Read Nad’s first post again, and wa